19 September 2018, Jimmy Cox used his Glock model 20 10mm, to stop the charging grizzly bear pictured, at 10 feet.There's been a few here n there, Elmendorf-Richardson Alaska
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memtb
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I'm not familiar with it! Can you see the dot without losing your check weld on your stock? memtb
brcfo_outdoors
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Sort of depends on your set up and face. I have to raise my head up just slightly, but head placement isn't critical because red dots don't suffer from the same parallax issues a scope would.
Would be more than good with 97% effective!
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My FOV at lowest power is pretty limited for a moving target inside of 50yds. Taking a shot at broadside bear within 30 seconds would be no problem. Talking a shot at a charging bouncing bear inside of 10 seconds....doesn't seem like it would be easy. I'll recheck my FOV at 10yds, but I suspect very little bear fits into the FOV and I would just be shooting at fur. Admittedly, the rifle/scope combo wasn't ideal for the situation.
I agree. While it's not a perfect solution and I'd prefer way less mag, I shot a running buck at 9 yards with a 6-24 on a bolt gun. There's something to be said for a rifle that fits you well enough you can toss it up and shoot from the soul with both eyes open.
There's also something to be said for practicing silly things like sub 50 yard off hand shooting
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I have a Kenie Gun fighter chest holster for my 8 in. S&W 460XVR. I don't carry it here in griz country because of weight. I got a Glock 20 10mm with a Gunfighter chest holster instead. I had tried some 180 fmj loads in my Glock 20 and my Springfield XDM 10 mm a couple years ago at 15 yds.. The Glock was way more accurate. About three weeks ago I tried some 220 gr. Grizzly and 200 gr. HSM bear loads at 15 yds with both. Waa haa ! The Springfield shot way better than the Glock . Now it has me thinking which to carry. I don't like the idea of a grip safety on the Springfield in griz country. I like the grip on the Springfield better. I don't have a shoulder holster for it either. I also carry bear spray on my hip. I don't like the idea of having to make a choice while bear is changing but my thinking is if I have time and bear isn't charging I'll pull bear spray. If I don't have time and bear is charging I'm pulling pistol or rifle depending on yardage. I haven't had any close calls and hope not to.I'm assuming that it's one of the short barreled versions…..in which case I'm bleeding with envy!If so, and you don't already have one, look into a cross-chest carry rig. It really makes the large, heavy handguns pleasant to carry.
I have a Galco Kodiak for my 8 3/8" XVR. It's pretty pleasant to carry but, with that long barrel….I won't win any "quick draw" contests! memtb
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I am not a believer of worrying about extra weight in a potentially life and death situation. True bear attacks like sharks are rare, but when one occurs it usually does not come to a happy ending. I certainly will not depend on a spray container in a FTF encounter.
Since you were asking about ammo, you can't do much better in a 460 round. It is reasonably priced, available and I can't imagine a bear walking away from a well placed shot. I'm 6'5" and about 300 lbs, and I have shot a lot of different ammo. I admit I wouldn't want to shoot a match with S&W 460, but in a critical situation I wouldn't have a problem. I would rather go down with a firearm even if I miss than bear spray.
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Since you were asking about ammo, you can't do much better in a 460 round. It is reasonably priced, available and I can't imagine a bear walking away from a well placed shot. I'm 6'5" and about 300 lbs, and I have shot a lot of different ammo. I admit I wouldn't want to shoot a match with S&W 460, but in a critical situation I wouldn't have a problem. I would rather go down with a firearm even if I miss than bear spray.
HSM Bear Ammo 460 S&W Mag 325 Grain Lead Wide Flat Nose Gas Check Box
Developed as a load to protect hunters while hunting or traveling in bear country, this American made ammunition is sure to keep you safe with its...
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Weight matters because after a few hikes with that boat anchor he's going to just leave it home.I am not a believer of worrying about extra weight in a potentially life and death situation. True bear attacks like sharks are rare, but when one occurs it usually does not come to a happy ending. I certainly will not depend on a spray container in a FTF encounter.
Since you were asking about ammo, you can't do much better in a 460 round. It is reasonably priced, available and I can't imagine a bear walking away from a well placed shot. I'm 6'5" and about 300 lbs, and I have shot a lot of different ammo. I admit I wouldn't want to shoot a match with S&W 460, but in a critical situation I wouldn't have a problem. I would rather go down with a firearm even if I miss than bear spray.
HSM Bear Ammo 460 S&W Mag 325 Grain Lead Wide Flat Nose Gas Check Box
Developed as a load to protect hunters while hunting or traveling in bear country, this American made ammunition is sure to keep you safe with its...
shoot before the targets bouncing and moving much easier to hit!
Just put the big black furry scull on top of the scope and let er rip!! Worked for me at a mere few feet! You'll get time to work the bolt just from the muzzle blast knocking their teeth out.
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Don, if the Springfield works better for you and you are uncomfortable with the grip safety….I think that you can drill and pin (keeping it in the off position) the grip safety the way that many people have done on the 1911's. Check and verify….It may not work on the Springfield! Just a quick look at my XDS without disassembly…..I think that it should be pretty easy! memtb
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