Remington 700 throat to long

[MOOSE39465]

Am I the only one experiencing a extremely long throat on a 6.5 Creedmoor? I can put a 143 eld-x bullet into the chamber point the muzzle downwards then chamber a case that has been size and the bullet never touches case. Rifle is a 6.5 Creedmoor Remington 700 SPS with 24 inch barrel. This can't be right?

 

[Orange Dust]

No, but it doesn't surprise me. Remington is building some mighty fine stuff these days.

 

[BW64]

Had the same problem with an SPS .308. I could seat an SMKT just into the case & not come close to touching the lands. Put 1000 rounds through it & the throat was so eroded I had to change it out.

BW

 

[MOOSE39465]

Remington is in desperate need of better quality control. I just bought the rifle and now I'm already looking for a replacement barrel.

 

[Deleted member 48126]

I have a buddy who works at Remington customer service. Remington does extremely long throats on purpose to lawyer proof their barrels. He said they don't want any issues with pressure spikes or guys who reload.

 

[MOOSE39465]

I have been buying Remington rifles for 25 years. This will be the last one I ever buy. To many other good rifles out there now to put up with this.

 

[Deleted member 48126]

I have been buying Remington rifles for 25 years. This will be the last one I ever buy. To many other good rifles out there now to put up with this.

Verbatim from my buddy:

"Remington makes sure you will never touch the lands."

He's a trained gunsmith and loves building long range rifles in his free time, but he's pretty fed up working for Remington.

Lol

 

[MOOSE39465]

I bet he is. Lol

 

[L.Sherm]

Am I the only one experiencing a extremely long throat on a 6.5 Creedmoor? I can put a 143 eld-x bullet into the chamber point the muzzle downwards then chamber a case that has been size and the bullet never touches case. Rifle is a 6.5 Creedmoor Remington 700 SPS with 24 inch barrel. This can't be right?

I'm guessing this is on a short action.
Saami reamers are .199 freebore so unless you put in a wyatts 3" box you'll never get there. I dont know how the143 stacks up against the Berger 140 VLD but you have to be about 2.93 to get to the lands with a 140.
Blame Hornandy for all that freebore not Remington I'm betting they using saami reamers.

 

[shortgrass]

I'm guessing this is on a short action.
Saami reamers are .199 freebore so unless you put in a wyatts 3" box you'll never get there. I dont know how the143 stacks up against the Berger 140 VLD but you have to be about 2.93 to get to the lands with a 140.
Blame Hornandy for all that freebore not Remington I'm betting they using saami reamers.

Of course they are using SAAMI spec reamers. These are 'off the shelf', factory rifles. Maybe even reamers with longer than SAAMI throats and leads, just to keep pressures down. Build an 'off the shelf' rifle and you don't know who the buyer is. Could be someone who knows and understands, or it could be just another interdnet trainee.

 

[MOOSE39465]

Is it possible to have to barrel set back enough to take up the Freebore?

 

[shortgrass]

Is it possible to have to barrel set back enough to take up the Freebore?

That depends on how much too long the throat/lead is. The 700 SPS doesn't have a lot of 'extra' to get a hold of with a lathe chuck. Few factory barrel are worth spending too much time on.

 

[KurtB]

Is it possible to have to barrel set back enough to take up the Freebore?

Curious if you have shot it yet and how accuracy is? I bought a 700 action, had a good smith screw on a Hawk Hill barrel and set the throat at .150. I can hit the lands with a 147 eld at 2.81" and I do not remember shooting a group that exceeded .5 moa with it. Doing it that way costs you some case capacity and I am probably running 50-100 fps slower than I would have been but I love the precision of it.

 

[L.Sherm]

.160 will put you right at the neck shoulder junction on a 140 VLD