SFMongo
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For a Deer Rifle would a 6.5 Grendel be more to your liking? Just asking.
Radical firearms any good?
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I have 3 Aero precision but in the AR-10 systems. One has an 18" 308 upper, one has a 6.5 CM with a fluted 22" SS barrel, but my favorite has a complete upper from Medesha Firearms (480-986-5876) in a 16" 45 Raptor complete upper.
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I have 2 from Radical. First was a 7.62x39 about 5 years ago. Very happy with it, no issues. Very accurate with handloads. 2nd I got in a wylde a couple years ago is horrid. The rail on the receiver isn't even square. Does not cycle either. Hoping I can salvage the barrel. Haven't messed with it any further. Kinda disgusted to even look at it.
Peter Carollo
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Ballistic Advantage is a sister company to Aero and I'm pretty sure Aero uses the BA barrels which to me are very good before getting into the higher end, more costly barrels. I would stick with the Aero upper, not to knock any others, I own several Aero, Yankee Hill, S&W, and one PSA that is still unshot.
snox801
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Ok I will, that is stupid. I have those bolt guns you mentioned. In No way are they more accurate than my psa ar rifles. They shoot the same caliber. How is it more ethical to use a bolt. In fact less what if he doesn't take a good shot follow ups can save you.
Second if it doesn't shoot accurately then it's up to him to decide if it's acceptable for ethics. My 350 legend radical upper shoots Greta out to 300 that's more ethical than a ruger bolt I had that simply would not shoot.
As a hunting community let's stay away from ethics or as seen and help others understand it up to that hunter to decide and help guide in the right direction
I have 3 in 300blk, an 8.5" MPR upper and (2) of the 16" MPR's in 300blk. They're hard to beat for the money, I have 2 set up for pig hunting at night within 100yds and they are great. Smooth function and reliable cycle of operations. I only have a few hundred rounds through them so far, but zero complaints for a $700 rifle.
For a bit of context, I've built between 350 and 400 AR's of various calibers at this point. I don't use any fully built rifles, but have used some prebuilt uppers for builds. I've used Proof Research, Christensen, Criterion, Rainier, Faxon, BA/Aero, PSA, Radical, and all the way down to BCA (yeah, I know...) I've used a few lesser known brands that I was very happy with as well, but the sample size is too low for those to really count.
Statistically, I've had some really good and some pretty bad RF experiences. Overall, I've been pretty happy for the price, but I don't usually suggest them if someone asks about them for a new build. Why? Because I used to be more cavalier about my recommendations, but then I realized that I have a lot of hours of experience, as well as shelves of parts that I can swap in to test with. A lot of people only have one or maybe two AR's, so one of them not running well is very detrimental, and they don't have the experience and parts to get it running.
Specifically for RF, I've dealt with probably 30? FWIW, I haven't had any issues with 300BLK uppers from them. All of them cycled, and maintained acceptable accuracy for a 16" barrel. I have seen/helped with a 5.56 midlength upper that wouldn't run some decent commercial ammo (undersized gas port), a 7.62x39 that had atrocious accuracy (even by 7.62 standards), and a 6.5 Grendel that was extremely particular about ammo to get any accuracy out of it (TBF, 6.5G is kinda known for being picky). All that being said, I've seen some good shooters from RF, so it's definitely a mixed bag. I do think you could get their support to give you a replacement if you had one that wouldn't cycle commercial ammo, or if it was key-holing. Some people aren't willing to deal with support, or aren't willing to be without a rifle for a while - that's for you to decide.
Maybe I am just lucky with PSA, but I have never had one that didn't run, and they have always had acceptable accuracy. By that, I mean that some have been stupid accurate and some have just been capable of being "hunting accurate". For people wanting to save money, I typically suggest them because I've never had to work on getting one to run. During the craziness of 2020 their prices went up, but some of them are starting to work their way down, and you can find good deals occasionally.
I've had good luck with accuracy on BA/Aero barrels, but I currently have an 18" .223 Wylde Premium Black with a seemingly undersized gas port that won't cycle. It is a fluke from my experience, but the point is that even mid to upper tier manufacturers can have their issues.
Only you know what your budget, willingness to deal with issues, technical level, etc are. I do think that RF will give you a hunting capable rifle, but just know the caveat that you may be more likely to have to deal with their support than if you bought a PSA or Aero. For me, I am at the point where I am willing to pay extra for a BA or Faxon barrel, and a good quality BCG, because I am more particular about wanting even my plinking rifles to be accurate.
Statistically, I've had some really good and some pretty bad RF experiences. Overall, I've been pretty happy for the price, but I don't usually suggest them if someone asks about them for a new build. Why? Because I used to be more cavalier about my recommendations, but then I realized that I have a lot of hours of experience, as well as shelves of parts that I can swap in to test with. A lot of people only have one or maybe two AR's, so one of them not running well is very detrimental, and they don't have the experience and parts to get it running.
Specifically for RF, I've dealt with probably 30? FWIW, I haven't had any issues with 300BLK uppers from them. All of them cycled, and maintained acceptable accuracy for a 16" barrel. I have seen/helped with a 5.56 midlength upper that wouldn't run some decent commercial ammo (undersized gas port), a 7.62x39 that had atrocious accuracy (even by 7.62 standards), and a 6.5 Grendel that was extremely particular about ammo to get any accuracy out of it (TBF, 6.5G is kinda known for being picky). All that being said, I've seen some good shooters from RF, so it's definitely a mixed bag. I do think you could get their support to give you a replacement if you had one that wouldn't cycle commercial ammo, or if it was key-holing. Some people aren't willing to deal with support, or aren't willing to be without a rifle for a while - that's for you to decide.
Maybe I am just lucky with PSA, but I have never had one that didn't run, and they have always had acceptable accuracy. By that, I mean that some have been stupid accurate and some have just been capable of being "hunting accurate". For people wanting to save money, I typically suggest them because I've never had to work on getting one to run. During the craziness of 2020 their prices went up, but some of them are starting to work their way down, and you can find good deals occasionally.
I've had good luck with accuracy on BA/Aero barrels, but I currently have an 18" .223 Wylde Premium Black with a seemingly undersized gas port that won't cycle. It is a fluke from my experience, but the point is that even mid to upper tier manufacturers can have their issues.
Only you know what your budget, willingness to deal with issues, technical level, etc are. I do think that RF will give you a hunting capable rifle, but just know the caveat that you may be more likely to have to deal with their support than if you bought a PSA or Aero. For me, I am at the point where I am willing to pay extra for a BA or Faxon barrel, and a good quality BCG, because I am more particular about wanting even my plinking rifles to be accurate.
snox801
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Keep in mind I've shot several hundred animals with ar's. His question was is it worth it or is it just little things. He's getting good info so he can make the choice best for him.
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We have come full circle!! Lol
Radical firearms upper
So I've waited over a year for psa to build more 16 300 blk uppers. I've contacted them many times with no luck. I know others make them but this thing shoots 5 shot goups under .5 all day. Plus it's the most well balanced comfortable gun I have hence its my go to gun for most things now. So I...
Stevenstl86
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If you can get a aero stripped upper and lower it will be fine. Psa kits are fine too but the barrels they source are terrible. Psa barrels shoot and function fine but over work brass a lot. I just swap the barrels out to ballistic advantage barrels.
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snox801
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I no longer own that one. But crazy how time flys.We have come full circle!! Lol
Radical firearms upper
So I've waited over a year for psa to build more 16 300 blk uppers. I've contacted them many times with no luck. I know others make them but this thing shoots 5 shot goups under .5 all day. Plus it's the most well balanced comfortable gun I have hence its my go to gun for most things now. So I...www.longrangehunting.com
i have a couple of their gas blocks and had no issues. you get what you pay for. i'd put them on par with PSA in terms of quality. i dont know where their stuff is made, i'd assume here but i'd have to look. i've built AR's with all sorts of different parts from different companies and i'm done buying overseas junk. it's generally not that much more to buy the good stuff.
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i've had a 458 socom I use for hog hunting that has about 200 rounds through it and I've been perfectly happy with it.
