Just Starting Out....Questions

Burrdock

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This entire thread is basically aimed at all of you more experienced guys or folks who have alot more knowledge in the build up of a specific projects.

What are the best aftermarket works I can do to my rifle to improve its performance?
I'm on about 1500.00 budget for any add-ons, fixes, or replacements.

I really want to keep the barrel though. Love the black inletted flutes.

the scenario is:

Factory Remington Sendero SF II .300 win.

Aftermarket Stockys Alum. pillar bedded LRV Laminated Thumbhole Stock

Any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you
 

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What is it not doing now? What are you shooting out of it? With out knowing much, first thing that comes to my mind is reloading. I have found that re-barreling a factory rifle that does not shoot well has produced good results for not a ton of money. I am sure that you can duplicate the coolness of the factory barrel. The ones that shoot really well are very cool no matter what they look like.:D

Give us a little more info.

Steve
 

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Agree with Steve. How is your rifle performing now? There are always the basic things to check like...

Make sure all action and scope scews are properly torqued.

Make sure you have a good scope.

Make sure the bore isn't over fouled.

After that I would probqbly start with tunning the trigger.

Then you might consider having the action bedded, but if you plan on getting the action blueprinted, you might want to have that done first.

You can also have the barrel recrowned.

IMO, hand loading is a must for precision shooting and you should use good quality dies. It really helps to have good measurement tools to ensure your cases and bullets are concentric. There's a lot of good reading ing the reloading forum and some good articles in the techincal article section.

Welcome to LRH and good shooting,

Mark
 

Burrdock

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Agree with Steve. How is your rifle performing now? There are always the basic things to check like...

Make sure all action and scope scews are properly torqued.

Make sure you have a good scope.

Make sure the bore isn't over fouled.

After that I would probqbly start with tunning the trigger.

Then you might consider having the action bedded, but if you plan on getting the action blueprinted, you might want to have that done first.

You can also have the barrel recrowned.

IMO, hand loading is a must for precision shooting and you should use good quality dies. It really helps to have good measurement tools to ensure your cases and bullets are concentric. There's a lot of good reading ing the reloading forum and some good articles in the techincal article section.

Welcome to LRH and good shooting,

Mark

thank you for the welcome and yes my initial question was pretty broad based. My rifle probably shoots alot better than I can but I throughly clean it with butch's did a known proper 20 shot breack in clean....and shoot form a 3 min cold barrel.

Right know Im shooting simple factory remington ammo 180 grain Swift Scirocco Bonded. It shoots anywhere from 1" 3 shot's to 2" . I haven't put the stocky's thumbhole on yet but I will be.

I wanted to just do some basic accurizing to it. Maybe the recoil lug, truing the lugs....ect. Im sending the bolt out for cosmetic fluting and figure might as well get the lugs trues seeing how it was fairly inexpensive.

As far as hand loading I simply don't have the time literally. I would like to know though if there is an outfit where you can buy custom handloaded ammo. I understand that not all ammo will shoot the same but want some place to start.

thanks
 

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thank you for the welcome and yes my initial question was pretty broad based. My rifle probably shoots alot better than I can but I throughly clean it with butch's did a known proper 20 shot breack in clean....and shoot form a 3 min cold barrel.

Right know Im shooting simple factory remington ammo 180 grain Swift Scirocco Bonded. It shoots anywhere from 1" 3 shot's to 2" . I haven't put the stocky's thumbhole on yet but I will be.

I wanted to just do some basic accurizing to it. Maybe the recoil lug, truing the lugs....ect. Im sending the bolt out for cosmetic fluting and figure might as well get the lugs trues seeing how it was fairly inexpensive.

As far as hand loading I simply don't have the time literally. I would like to know though if there is an outfit where you can buy custom handloaded ammo. I understand that not all ammo will shoot the same but want some place to start.

thanks

If you're going to get the lugs lapped then you probably want to get the barrel set back a little for headspace. That's something you can figure out with your smith. A new recoil lug wouldn't be a bad idea eother. And you might consider a new firling pin assembly.

Changing stocks out may have a big effect on how your rifle shoots. If it was me, i would definitely have the laminate bedded for the action. I'm surprised your Sendero isn't shooting any better than that. You might give the presnt stock a good looking over to see if there are any irregularities. You might find a high spot or something else not quite right. One of our members found a high spot in his HS stock and sanded it down and that fixed his Sendero..

There are a number of custom ammo makers but I couldn't give you a reference. If you goggle it you'll find some sites. You might start another thread on that in the rifles, barrels and bullets forum and see if you can get some references.

Mark
 

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i have shot/reloaded for 5 300 win senderos they all shot good to great. they had the triggers adjusted and vais muzzle brake. that is all. no bedding no different stock. good scopes.
 

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If you're going to get the lugs lapped then you probably want to get the barrel set back a little for headspace. That's something you can figure out with your smith. A new recoil lug wouldn't be a bad idea eother. And you might consider a new firling pin assembly.

Changing stocks out may have a big effect on how your rifle shoots. If it was me, i would definitely have the laminate bedded for the action. I'm surprised your Sendero isn't shooting any better than that. You might give the presnt stock a good looking over to see if there are any irregularities. You might find a high spot or something else not quite right. One of our members found a high spot in his HS stock and sanded it down and that fixed his Sendero..

There are a number of custom ammo makers but I couldn't give you a reference. If you goggle it you'll find some sites. You might start another thread on that in the rifles, barrels and bullets forum and see if you can get some references.

Mark


thanks mark very informative. Like I said about the rifle and me It probabley can shoot much better than I but I do use a lead sled DFT and am getting better.
 

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I would not spend any more money on the rifle until you can run good quality hand loads through it. I have yet to see a rifle not get considerably better with hand loads tuned to the rifle.

Steve
 

Burrdock

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I would not spend any more money on the rifle until you can run good quality hand loads through it. I have yet to see a rifle not get considerably better with hand loads tuned to the rifle.

Steve

sounds liks a plan i'll go that route first thanks
 

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I would not spend any more money on the rifle until you can run good quality hand loads through it. I have yet to see a rifle not get considerably better with hand loads tuned to the rifle.

Steve

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Sound advice. With proper tuning of handloads, will you be able to see the potential of your Sendero. If you are not yet handloading, try a couple different types of factory ammunition, custom if you like.

There are many gunsmiths who offer simple accuracy packages that can help the stubborn rifle, if yours is. Here is a link to just one of the sponsors on this site that offers this package at a reasonable price. You can look this over to get an idea of what they offer.

Montour County Rifles
 

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Burrdock,
JMO, but I think you'll get better results, from even the factory Remington Scirocco's, if you try an independent, padded front rest and a rear sand bag, and concentrate on your form. Not to dis you or the Lead Sled but I don't think it will "return to battery" everytime like most think. It's was designed to tame recoil not to shoot one hole groups. JohnnyK.
 

MontanaRifleman

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Burrdock,
JMO, but I think you'll get better results, from even the factory Remington Scirocco's, if you try an independent, padded front rest and a rear sand bag, and concentrate on your form. Not to dis you or the Lead Sled but I don't think it will "return to battery" everytime like most think. It's was designed to tame recoil not to shoot one hole groups. JohnnyK.

Plus one, Factory Scirocco's shot very well out of my Sendero 300 RUM.
 

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