I Really Need a Psychiatrist!

Discussion in 'The Basics, Starting Out' started by CaptnC, Feb 15, 2018.

  1. CaptnC

    CaptnC Well-Known Member

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    J E,
    The barrel is heavily free floated...so I'm pretty sure if there was any possibe moment the barrel is far enough away to make contact.

    But no I was not aware of it. I can see where it might be an issue with those cheap factory Savage stocks...

    Thanks...one more thing to add to my check list.

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    This is the rig I'm using...
     
  2. CaptnC

    CaptnC Well-Known Member

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    I know the 90% sounds very arrogant but because I had the entire range to my self. I hung my targets up on the right end of the 300yds section, put my nose in the wind as I walked back to the benches so I knew the wind would be dead behind me.
    I was on the second bench from the left...my targets were on the right end of the target stands. They have about 30 benches for the 300yds area.

    I thought of as much as I could to narrow the outside influences possibly messing up my shot...

    It was all me on the trigger!
     
  3. Barrelnut

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    Sounds to me like your psyching yourself out and just wishing that last shot in there. That's pretty common in a lot of things. Try hitting 10 straight free throws; the last one is a bitch!

    Just got to clear your mind. Close your eyes, take a couple deep breaths, relax the shoulders, imagine a field full daisies on a sunny day. What ever it takes. Then get behind the rifle, understanding that none of this really matters, and just shoot it like you normally do. :)
     
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  4. Deputy819

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    While I don't have the Long Range Rifle Shooting experience most of you have "Timnterra" talked about something we do on our S.W.A.T team quite a bit. We take turns loading up each other's pistol mags while at the training range. Those mags will consist of live rounds mixed with "dummy" rounds. It REALLY helps to identify "flinching" issues as well as seeing how efficiently you can "clear the malfunction". Wouldnt be too hard to make up a "dummy" round or 2 for your rifle caliber and then have someone (preferably one proficient in firearms :)) load your internal/box magazine up before you go to the bench/range. No Peeking!!!
     
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  5. CaptnC

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    I need a dud rate of about 60% to really help.

    I would really like to do that for about an hour or two...it would have to help.
     
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    Well if 90% of you is shooting really well...don't take the tenth shot...all perfect....
    My bad shots are usually the first...after that I settle in for the long session...
    I think my problems are anticipating the noises....my ears are bad enough..plugs and headphones...
    Your gun has no brake(likewise with mine)...try setting up a shield behind the muzzle and see if that has any effect...reduce noises and concentrate more...put your psychy to rest....
     
  7. MagMan

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    I can send you a firing pin spring that will do this for you. :D
     
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    I know I do this. I anticipate the noise, and recoil. I know cause if others are shooting while I'm shooting, I will flinch when a rifle goes off close. It is especially bad if I have been rolling up pressure on the trigger, and it's about to break. I sometimes have to coach myself, Yeh, it kicks. Yeh, it might bite you. Yeh, it's loud. But it's gonna be ok. Sometimes, that helps. I got a Timney trigger, and believe that helped, too.
     
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    I'm pretty immune to loud noises. I'm around it all day and have been for 41 years. The wife and kids try to startle me all the time...they get up set that they can never make me jump.

    But I know I'm recoil shy...without a doubt! I have no clue why I do it with a bow as well????
     
  10. wbm

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    Well at least you are consistent.
     
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    Been thinking about my own comment...

    It can't be recoil...bow doesn't have any recoil nor does it have any loud noise.

    It's just plan ol' target panic!
     
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    26Reload Well-Known Member

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    A long time ago a Vietnam vet told me the biggest secret to shooting animals.....which works for targets as well.....
    "THEY DONT SHOOT BACK"
     
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  13. joep17

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    Everyone's mind works differently. Sometimes mine does not work at all.

    When I started F Class shooting i discovered I subconsciously blinked when I squeezed the trigger

    I started training myself at home by dry firing my gun on my gate post 100 yds away, keeping trigger control and sight picture paramount in my mind. It took a bit of time but I soon found that concentrating on keeping my eyes open I started to see the rifle recoil and settle trying to keep my eyes open. My scores started to increase.

    Now I try to have a "dry fire session" the day before matches.

    Each of us have different problems that once identified we can try to eliminate.

    Watching the olypics we see athletes visualizing their runs. I am going to try that before matches.

    Good luck! More trigger time (dry and live) will always help.
     
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    It is not recoil that normally gets a person, it is the target picture. We work hard to get the perfect hold in the center of the bulls eye and when we finally have that perfect center hold we have a tendency to Punch the trigger or release the string before we loose it. with a bow, we want to see the hit and the arm holding the bow gets ahead of the
    string release. With a fire arm, the brain is faster than the trigger finger
    and says NOW but the finger cant react as fast so the damage is done.

    The last shot in any great group is the toughest because you want to put it in the same bullet hole and you try to hard and think about it to much. :rolleyes:

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