Alright guys, I did a quick search but didn't come up with much. Here's the scoop. I used to live in and hunt in Craig Colorado, and I got spoiled... Deer, elk, antelope, I tagged out every year. I wasn't "long range" back then. Mostly 300 yards or less. Animals were just everywhere and you could spot and stalk. Sagebrush and high desert sort of landscape made things pretty easy. Fast forward. I live in Hood River Oregon now. I have been hunting the area for about 3 years now, and I have been completely unsuccessful. It is totally out of my spectrum. The woods here are THICK! So thick in places you cant even walk through them. And there are some elk around, but not a bunch. I have yet to draw a tag for eastern Oregon so I am stuck with a general tag for the Mt. Hood area. My question is, can some of you guys with more experience recommend some tips on how I should be hunting these buggers? I have tried spot and stalk, didn't get past the "spot" stage... Tried chasing tracks in the snow, could never get close enough, tracked em all over the damn mountain. By the time elk season rolls around, I feel I should be comfortable shooting to the max capable range I would consider for a 308 on elk, about 400-450 yards, not that it's likely I'll ever see one that far off... I guess the general question is, long range or not, faced with thick --- woods and animals few and far between, what would you do? My first thought is, "hunt like a bow hunter", but being a general tag, there are a ton of people out chasing these elk around, they are spooked 100% of the time.