cowbotwhorses, I got your die done.

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by Pbike257, Mar 27, 2014.

  1. Pbike257

    Pbike257 Member

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    Jeff,

    I finished the .338 Lapua/.338 Norma Mag Ring die today. I'll be able to pack it up and ship it this weekend. It will work awesome for you, no more hard bolt open or close because of tight web area. We got that all figured out. In fact this is gonna work so good for you, you'll be asking me for the same die for all your calibers even the big ones.

    Thanks again,
    Paul
     
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  2. cowboywhorses

    cowboywhorses Well-Known Member

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    Can not wait for it . I have some brass that needs to be rework with this die.

    When i run the brass trough , does the die have to be set just against the shell holder ?

    Or does it need a touch of cam over set up on the press.

    Thanks Paul

    Jeff
     
  3. new shooter

    new shooter Well-Known Member

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    Tell me about the dies. I have a 338 Norma. Do they do the web better ?Whats is the cost ? Do you have his phone #. Thanks for info. Joe
     
  4. Pbike257

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    cowboywhorses,

    Which shell holder do you use? Some of your brass fits my shell holder some doesn't. In looking at your brass, you have Lapua, Norma, Hornady, and Jamison here. Only about half of it fits in my shell holder, and I need to Shorten and Case Harden the shell holder. Would be great to know which shell holder you use. call me, or Email, you have my info.
     
  5. cowboywhorses

    cowboywhorses Well-Known Member

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    Re: cowboywhorses, I got your die done.

    Paul the Laupa brass is 338 laupa and 300, 338 norma will be the same RCBS shell holder number 35 . Or use 416 Rigby.

    The 408 ,375, 338 large ones will be on the 505 gibbs case. I have to look at the shell holder.


    Hope that helps. Sent you as many brass that I had for the guns I want to build.

    Thanks again

    Jeff
     
  6. cowboywhorses

    cowboywhorses Well-Known Member

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    New Shooter also Paul could answer this.

    Paul has made me a ring die to size my brass at the web area ahead of the rim.

    Some of my brass has ran as big as .587 above the rim. So I have a gun that only takes .584 or smaller. Now when I run my full length die to size this had brass that some work , some do not. But some even do not work when loaded. This brass spring back hand me really checking every step of reloading. Once I saw Paul ,s You tube video I called him for a chat. Well he know what was going on . So now I have a die made for 338 Norma and will work on 338 Laupa Brass. This also will not affect the oal at of the case.

    Paul correct me if wrong. For my die he made it .578 then with spring back come out to about .581 or .582 .

    So now that problem is solved. Paul has some ideas that have made me open my eyes to new ideas. Meaning how bench rest shooters are aware of things that we need to help us incorporate into long distance hunting or shooting.

    Thanks again Paul.

    Jeff
     
  7. Pbike257

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    Jeff,

    You're correct, your die will size the brass below standard while the brass is in the die. But after it comes out it does have some spring back. The die is built to .5785" Diameter. All the ID grinds coming out of this shop for me are ground to + or - .0001 meaning that the die could be .5784 to .5786. I know that this is way easier to type than it is too achieve. I don't just take his word for it either. when he's done with his work he shows me the product and how it measures with his equipment. It's the grinders job to have the tooling and the ability to produce to this tolerance. He not only has the tooling, but he has 40 years experience behind him. I have the easy part, I make the die body and have it heat treated to my specs, he then keeps the "rough" product that I give him to the specs. that I have given to him. The Brass coming out of the die measures .580 to .581, which is more dependent on the toughness and thickness of the brass itself than it is the die. Every few firings the brass should be run through the die to keep it from getting too large in the web. This die does nothing to the shoulder or the body, only the web area. So you'll still need to keep up on your shoulder bump, and neck dimensions. I have a pile of boxes going in the morning mail. It has been a busy couple of weeks here. One more thing.... It's way more simple to keep up on the brass and keep it good before it gets too bad, then it is to wait for it to get bad and then try to correct it.