Cerakote

[Jim McClellan]

Looking for a Matte black that is not Cerakote. Not getting good results out of Cerakote and they are unwilling to help. Anybody had good luck with a different product?
Thanks
Jim

 

[bigngreen]

What issues are you having? I really haven't seen anything as good as Cerakote.

 

[Mustang72]

Brownells bake on

 

[Jim McClellan]

The main problem is the graphite black. Im pretty sure its humidity, very hard to get a matte finish out of it. If the humidity is high i get a gloss black out of it. I call it black ice, almost looks like a "wet" black. My only complaint on wear is on the bolt or a barrel in a pistol slide, just doesn't hold up well.

 

[Deleted member 103481]

Might try Norrells moly resin

 

[bigngreen]

Ya, I've seen the graphite do that, I shoot it at a little higher air pressure than the rest, make sure you put it on thin enough and have the part warm enough that it flashes of fairly soon.
I switched to the armor black and like it a whole lot more, it's not as touchy about the application.

 

[ophious]

Armor black is great. I just did a receiver last weekend. More hardener in it the glossier it will be.

 

[Jim McClellan]

That AR lower is exactly is what im looking for. I have Armor black, I'll add a little extra hardener to it and see how it goes.

 

[Jim McClellan]

I'll take some pic's and show what I've been dealing with. Thanks for the info everyone!

 

[ophious]

no no no! Don't add extra hardner! The more hardener you add the more glossy it makes it. Edit: This rule if for H-series only though.

 

[ophious]

@Jim McClellan Use a 24:1 ratio. Meaning if you are spraying a lower only use about 12ml of Cerakote and 0.5ml of hardener. Keep it close to the 24:1 ratio for a matte finish.

 

[bigngreen]

I run a 20:1 for a smooth matte finish, you can lean it out and get almost a chalky black.

 

[Jim McClellan]

Armor is very flat? I'm looking for a little sheen, so I'm thinking just little extra hardener for the armor. Has anyone tried drips per ML? I read a few years back someone was putting three drips per ML. I'm sure that depends on the bottle you're using. I just shot a barreled action and ran it 22:1 and still to glossy. I'll reshot it tomorrow with a 24:1 and post a pic. Thanks guys.

 

[bigngreen]

I always go 24:1 with Graphite black, I run 5 more psi and and shoot the part at 120 F, and I don't lay more down until it's flashed of. Armor black just rally it at 20:1 and it's a smooth satin finish.