DawntoDusk
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Maybe not flippant but definitely not informative.The ones that shoot less than a .5 is what I'm loyal to
Sorry if that sound flippant
Maybe not flippant but definitely not informative.The ones that shoot less than a .5 is what I'm loyal to
Sorry if that sound flippant
This has been fun should do it again next year
Be careful with experience, knowledge and common sense. It makes haters on Internet forums...I have used Berger seldomly but used them on long range (400 yards and beyond) (I love Barnes solid copper X-bullets). When I did use them, bergers, on Deer and Elk; I was never disappointed. if something does not work for me, I will be honest and tell you, if it works for me I am equally as honest. I can not see one singular reason for lying to anyone. if a product works, then it works. If it does not, then it does not. simple as that in my mind. just like my selection of calibers. I have many calibers, each works for what I have it for.
Be careful with the 180 accubonds, they will explode when going at extreme velocities. I have heard others say the 200 gr is built differently and will hold together better than the 180. I wasnt willing to take the chance and switched to the ttsx and have had great success with them.After reading this post I understand your way of thinking much clearer and your train of thought makes total sense. When shooting an animal, the last thing that I am worried about is losing meat. I don't live in hunting country, and besides deer hunting, any trip that I make is a guided hunt. So knowing that I might not get another shot until my next trip, I want to be prepared to take whatever shot presents itself. In Africa, a lost animal is a lost trophy fee so on a second shot I want to be able to hit it any way I can.
I don't use the X Bullets anymore for the same reason you don't, because I have had them blow through deer with no expansion but they are PERFECT on a 2000lb Eland.
I am using Accubonds now as an all around bullet....a comprimise between an X and a non-bonded cup and core bullet.
That's just me brother and it's all good
Yeah, those early copper bullets were way too hard. I always stayed away from them back then because of some friends results on Elk. The ones they make now have worked great on elk and African plains game, but I still wouldn't choose them for north american deer, too tough of a bullet.I tried the Barnes x bullets on a deer 30 years ago what a disaster, had to shoot the thing 5 times to put it down.
Penciled right through it.
I was wondering if anyone would mention the Federal Edge TLR. I shot a cow elk at 570 yds in 2018 with a .300 WSM factory load. Double lung shot, pencil size entry hole, destroyed both lungs, half dollar exit hole. Dropped in her tracks. Bull shot at 500 yds in 2019 with handload. Frontal shot, destroyed part of one lung and most of other, exited rib cage just behind diaphragm, again a half dollar exit hole. Bull took 10 steps and collapsed. I want a bullet that exits and leaves a blood trail if I have a less than perfect shot. So far this bullet performs as advertised. I am getting excellent accuracy, and outstanding terminal performance. Biggest problem with this bullet is availability.Also forgot to mention the Federal Edge TLR bullet. Buddy of mine took a bull at 598 yards with my rifle and load. Bullet performed EXCELLENT. I would most likely use those bullets exclusively but they can't get their consistency on bullet making down. The base to ogive measurements were all over the spectrum. I tried real hard to get them to shoot at 1000 yards but they were spraying all over. If you want a bullet for 600 yards
and under, I would very strongly recommend this bullet to you.
if they ever get their consistency down right, I would use this bullet forever (maybe haha)
I really want to shoot the 215 Hybrid, despite witnessing poor performance with the VLD with my own eyes. So I started really using the Google and reading real world reports here there and everywhere. The one thing that I realized, there is a very vocal group of people who are members of every single forum on the internets. There are like 3-4 people who are members of every shooting forum that ever was and post on all of them day in and day out. Don't you people have something better to do? Anyway, when you really weed through the "amazing" reports from the vocal minority, you find a lot of more joe average type guys who don't have the best things to say but seem to get drowned out or shouted down by a couple people who allegedly have killed ten thousand game animals without a failure.
Without tipping my hand on bullets/or manufacturers, in my elk hunting experience the weather,terrain is typically very dry. An exit hole to drain that critter is very helpful in the recovery of said critter. Imho
Be careful with the 180 accubonds, they will explode when going at extreme velocities. I have heard others say the 200 gr is built differently and will hold together better than the 180. I wasnt willing to take the chance and switched to the ttsx and have had great success with them.