Badlands Precision Bullets thread - From BC to terminal ballistics

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I'm running them in a 7 Allen Mag - 8 tw Bartlein 26" - 107 gr of RL-33 pushing the 150 BD-2 to 3,711 fps. (COAL 3.56") Seems to like being seated to 0.010 to 0.015 off the lands.

Finding the same thing in the 7-LRM - 8 twist 24" Proof - except on that one we're running 71 gr of RL-26 and pushing them to 3,213 fps.

Not sure how much that helps. (would try H-1000 if we had it)
Dang! Smoking fast in that Allen Mag.

Curious, in your bullet seating depth tests, did you ever run some at a 30 to 60 thou jump to the lands?

With RL-33, you may indeed fond more consistent combustion seated near the lands. Others have found and reported that to be true with RL-33, including Kirby Allen.

I'm seeing evidence of lower ES/SD with the Bulldozer bullets jumped 0.035 to 0.050" in my rifles.
 

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I'm running them in a 7 Allen Mag - 8 tw Bartlein 26" - 107 gr of RL-33 pushing the 150 BD-2 to 3,711 fps. (COAL 3.56") Seems to like being seated to 0.010 to 0.015 off the lands.

Finding the same thing in the 7-LRM - 8 twist 24" Proof - except on that one we're running 71 gr of RL-26 and pushing them to 3,213 fps.

Not sure how much that helps. (would try H-1000 if we had it)
Have you shot any game with them yet?
 

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Dang! Smoking fast in that Allen Mag.

Curious, in your bullet seating depth tests, did you ever run some at a 30 to 60 thou jump to the lands?

With RL-33, you may indeed fond more consistent combustion seated near the lands. Others have found and reported that to be true with RL-33, including Kirby Allen.

I'm seeing evidence of lower ES/SD with the Bulldozer bullets jumped 0.035 to 0.050" in my rifles.
I know that's smoking - scary fast. Hit's like lightning - literally. With his PK brake I can spot my shots even at 300 yds. Both my spotter and I could see the bright flash when them zingers hit the steel. Maybe it's the silver tip? The hot-rod 7 AM sure is a testosterone trip. Not to mention it speaks with authority at the range. :) Yeah, I'm still smiling from the last trip out.

Anyway, back to what's important - I only loaded them according to what Kirby had developed. I sent him a recent request for that info, but have not heard back yet. Was not interested in wasting barrel life to play with other combinations when it's shooting .3 MOA the way it is.

Where we are right now in business and family life, I simply don't have time or space to do my own loading. As of now, Blaine Painter from Unknown Munitions is doing all my load development and loads. The 7-LRM is still in development, but the 0.010 to 0.015 is what he said they liked with the RL-26 in that case. Might have a lead on some H1000, and if it works out, we might try that yet before we call it done.
 

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Dang! Smoking fast in that Allen Mag.

Curious, in your bullet seating depth tests, did you ever run some at a 30 to 60 thou jump to the lands?

With RL-33, you may indeed fond more consistent combustion seated near the lands. Others have found and reported that to be true with RL-33, including Kirby Allen.

I'm seeing evidence of lower ES/SD with the Bulldozer bullets jumped 0.035 to 0.050" in my rifles.
Thanks for sharing your experience though. What powder are you burning and in what case? I'd like to pass the info on to Blaine if relevant.
 

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Thanks for sharing your experience though. What powder are you burning and in what case? I'd like to pass the info on to Blaine if relevant.
Sounds like you're having some fun!

I shoot four different Badlands Precision bullets in 5 different cartridges/rifles.

In 7mm rifles, using RL-26 with the 145gr BD in both a 280 AI and a 7mm Rem Mag.

N570 with the .308 196.5gr BD in 30-8x68S Improved.

H1000 with the .308 205gr SBD-2 in 30 SM.

RL-33 with the .338 275gr BD in 338 Lapua Rogue.
 

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Sounds like you're having some fun!

I shoot four different Badlands Precision bullets in 5 different cartridges/rifles.

In 7mm rifles, using RL-26 with the 145gr BD in both a 280 AI and a 7mm Rem Mag.

N570 with the .308 196.5gr BD in 30-8x68S Improved.

H1000 with the .308 205gr SBD-2 in 30 SM.

RL-33 with the .338 275gr BD in 338 Lapua Rogue.
How you liking the 196.5 and 205s?Building a 30 SM and was going to shoot the 205s but could get the 1:9 barrel faster, so I went with the 196.5.
 

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How you liking the 196.5 and 205s?Building a 30 SM and was going to shoot the 205s but could get the 1:9 barrel faster, so I went with the 196.5.
Have only hunted with the 196.5. Shot several animals. Accurate and deadly on game. Hope to try the 205s on game this August/September.

Very little bullet shredding of meat (Burger) compared to the popular lead core jacketed bullets used for LRH. And sufficient penetration is ensured with the solid copper core.
 
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Have only hunted with the 196.5. Shot several animals. Accurate and deadly on game. Hope to try the 205s on game this August/September.

Very little bullet shredding of meat (Burger) compared to the popular lead core jacketed bullets used for LRH. And sufficient penetration is ensured with the solid copper core.

thank you. What kind of speeds are you seeing with both?
 

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Shoot the 196.5gr about 3,150 with good precision. 26" barrel from 30-8x68S Improved. It's a clone to the 30 SM cartridge.

Shooting the 205gr very comfortably @ 3,000fps with good precision. 26" barrel from 30 SM. Can launch them faster. Had them at 3,100 without pressure. May find a higher velocity node. Rather limited load testing with this bullet. I need to run them up to find max pressure and see if there's another MV node.

Beware, these bullets will absolutely hit max pressures with lower powder charges than lead core jacketed bullets. Start 10-15% low and feel your way up to higher pressure loads.
 
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Sounds like you're having some fun!
I shoot four different Badlands Precision bullets in 5 different cartridges/rifles.
In 7mm rifles, using RL-26 with the 145gr BD in both a 280 AI and a 7mm Rem Mag.
N570 with the .308 196.5gr BD in 30-8x68S Improved.
H1000 with the .308 205gr SBD-2 in 30 SM.
RL-33 with the .338 275gr BD in 338 Lapua Rogue.

Very much appreciate the info and help.
 

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Shoot the 196.5gr about 3,150 with good precision. 26" barrel from 30-8x68S Improved. It's a clone to the 30 SM cartridge.

Shooting the 205gr very comfortably @ 3,000fps with good precision. 26" barrel from 30 SM. Can launch them faster. Had them at 3,100 without pressure. May find a higher velocity node. Rather limited load testing with this bullet. I need to run them up to find max pressure and see if there's another MV node.

Beware, these bullets will absolutely hit max pressures with lower powder charges than lead core jacketed bullets. Start 10-15% low and feel your way up to higher pressure loads.
What powder and charge are you using in your 30SM for the 196.5?
 
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