Ahh Oregon

Can we send all the liberals in the USA to Oregon and let the rest of us live sensible lives?
Nope, we're trying to become Greater Idaho. A very large section, something like 19 counties have voter approval of this already. Benefits Idaho and counties in Oregon California. If Idaho doesn't help with this, they'll become a blue state soon. Boise, Pocatello, and CDA are already blue. Could be as soon as the next gubernatorial race.
 
Nope, we're trying to become Greater Idaho. A very large section, something like 19 counties have voter approval of this already. Benefits Idaho and counties in Oregon California. If Idaho doesn't help with this, they'll become a blue state soon. Boise, Pocatello, and CDA are already blue. Could be as soon as the next gubernatorial race.
That would be amazing
 
Interesting that nobody has asked the voters in Idaho if they want Oregon to become part of our state. I think most would not. Secession is probably the better "answer" to Oregon's dilemma.:)
 
Interesting that nobody has asked the voters in Idaho if they want Oregon to become part of our state. I think most would not. Secession is probably the better "answer" to Oregon's dilemma.:)

Doesn't matter, it's nothing but a money grab for the organizers. Anybody that looked would see it takes State approval, then Congress, and there is ZERO chance this movement will get past those two.
 
Doesn't matter, it's nothing but a money grab for the organizers. Anybody that looked would see it takes State approval, then Congress, and there is ZERO chance this movement will get past those two.
Unlikely true. Zero chance? We'll see. With states reposition the number of representatives they have I can see this be a viable alternative.
 
I'm a native Oregon, gun enthusiast, avid lifelong hunter of multiple species, own a side business in firearms related parts and....wait for it....am a liberal. Truth be told, I'm a slightly left of center democrat who also has some republican and some socialist leanings (health care and education).

There are a ton of hunters and gun loving people in Oregon on both sides of the aisle. I would guess that the majority of the folks pushing this kind of crap are among the 80000 people per year who are moving into the state from elsewhere.

There is also a ton of folks here who rely on livestock and agriculture for their livelihoods. Animal cruelty bills have failed here more than once just based on that. Hopefully logic and actual science will drive decisions on our laws, but who knows. These days, politicians and media have us all so focused on party lines and arguing amongst ourselves that we are guaranteed to miss what they are really trying to get done behind the scenes.
 
I've mentioned Oregon has been planning on banning hunting, fishing, and trapping on this forum before and this issue is high on the list of reasons why folks on the east side (and some on the west) want to skedaddle. This helps explain why Oregon's population has lost a net 30,000 residents since 2021 as well and I suspect a lot of them up and moved to Idaho.

Unfortunately, the state constitution gives control of redrawing state lines to congress and the "D's" have a 5/8th super majority in the house and senate.
So with the current situation in state congress the greater Idaho plan is going no where and in fact the Governor has refused to open discussions for 572 days.

It's not all bad news though, the state was sued by Judicial Watch and lost after they found 800,000 illegitimate registered voters on the rolls which the state is now required to remove. That is 25.8% of the total registered voters in this state which also claims 93.5% 🤔 of all voter eligible residents are registered to vote. The state also lays claim to having the highest voter turnout in presidential election years averaging 80.8% while the US as a whole averages 56.2%. If you add the 25.8% illegitimate registered voters to the national average of 56.2% turnout you get 82% almost the exact turnout claimed by the state. Hmm makes me think this state may have a ghost voter problem.

While it is true similar measures have failed to get enough signatures to get on the ballot this one currently is only ~29K short with many months left for gathering. If this measure somehow does get on the ballot, passes, and is signed into law you can add my name to the list of ex-Oregonians.
 
I've mentioned Oregon has been planning on banning hunting, fishing, and trapping on this forum before and this issue is high on the list of reasons why folks on the east side (and some on the west) want to skedaddle. This helps explain why Oregon's population has lost a net 30,000 residents since 2021 as well and I suspect a lot of them up and moved to Idaho.

Unfortunately, the state constitution gives control of redrawing state lines to congress and the "D's" have a 5/8th super majority in the house and senate.
So with the current situation in state congress the greater Idaho plan is going no where and in fact the Governor has refused to open discussions for 572 days.

It's not all bad news though, the state was sued by Judicial Watch and lost after they found 800,000 illegitimate registered voters on the rolls which the state is now required to remove. That is 25.8% of the total registered voters in this state which also claims 93.5% 🤔 of all voter eligible residents are registered to vote. The state also lays claim to having the highest voter turnout in presidential election years averaging 80.8% while the US as a whole averages 56.2%. If you add the 25.8% illegitimate registered voters to the national average of 56.2% turnout you get 82% almost the exact turnout claimed by the state. Hmm makes me think this state may have a ghost voter problem.

While it is true similar measures have failed to get enough signatures to get on the ballot this one currently is only ~29K short with many months left for gathering. If this measure somehow does get on the ballot, passes, and is signed into law you can add my name to the list of ex-Oregonians.
I will be furious if this passes, but we need to stay and fight. Otherwise, we're just handing over this incredible state to a bunch of idiots who don't realize they'll starve if everyone became vegetarians overnight. Wait...maybe that's the solution!! ;)
 
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