6.5-06 reload data request

[TBuckus]

If anyone has some spare time and QL, if they could give me some load info on my new build, it would be appreciated.
I had my 270 rebarreled to a 6.5-06 with a 25" barrel. I'm hoping to get good results with the 143 gr. ELDX bullets.
I currently have H4350, IMR4350 and H4831sc but if another powder works up better, I'll go pick some up.
Thanks in advance

 

[Trnelson]

I would start at around 50.0g 4831sc is where I would start. IMR 7977, Norma 217 or retumbo should all be viable also.

 

[CaptnC]

I built one earlier this year. Mine has a 26" barrel plus a break. I have the 1 in 9 twist. So I have not tried any real long bullets.

Mine seems to really like 129's and 130's.

H4350 (49.5) and H4831(55.0).

With the H4350 load above it shoots .5moa at 100yds.

 

[Bowfishn]

H-4350
Cartridge : 6.5-06 A-Square
Bullet : .264, 143, Hornady ELD-X 2635
Useable Case Capaci: 60.364 grain H2O = 3.919 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 25.0 inch = 635.0 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H4350

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 83 45.00 2593 2135 43437 9938 98.3 1.448
-09.0 84 45.50 2618 2177 44691 10035 98.5 1.429
-08.0 85 46.00 2644 2219 45979 10128 98.8 1.410
-07.0 85 46.50 2669 2261 47300 10219 99.0 1.391
-06.0 86 47.00 2694 2304 48656 10306 99.2 1.373
-05.0 87 47.50 2719 2347 50048 10389 99.3 1.355
-04.0 88 48.00 2744 2390 51477 10470 99.5 1.337
-03.0 89 48.50 2768 2434 52943 10547 99.6 1.320
-02.0 90 49.00 2793 2477 54449 10620 99.7 1.303
-01.0 91 49.50 2818 2521 55995 10690 99.8 1.286 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 92 50.00 2842 2565 57583 10757 99.9 1.270 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 93 50.50 2867 2609 59213 10819 100.0 1.254 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 94 51.00 2891 2653 60886 10878 100.0 1.238 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 95 51.50 2915 2698 62606 10933 100.0 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 96 52.00 2939 2742 64371 10985 100.0 1.207 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 96 52.50 2963 2787 66185 11036 100.0 1.193 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 92 50.00 2937 2740 66822 10403 100.0 1.190 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 92 50.00 2704 2322 48359 10780 96.9 1.375

 

[Bowfishn]

IMR 4350
Cartridge : 6.5-06 A-Square
Bullet : .264, 143, Hornady ELD-X 2635
Useable Case Capaci: 60.364 grain H2O = 3.919 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 25.0 inch = 635.0 mm
Powder : IMR 4350

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 81 45.00 2598 2143 43712 9941 98.4 1.444
-09.0 82 45.50 2623 2185 44974 10036 98.6 1.425
-08.0 83 46.00 2648 2227 46269 10129 98.9 1.406
-07.0 84 46.50 2674 2270 47598 10217 99.1 1.387
-06.0 85 47.00 2699 2312 48963 10303 99.3 1.369
-05.0 86 47.50 2724 2355 50363 10385 99.4 1.351
-04.0 87 48.00 2748 2398 51801 10464 99.6 1.333
-03.0 88 48.50 2773 2442 53277 10540 99.7 1.316
-02.0 89 49.00 2798 2485 54792 10612 99.8 1.299
-01.0 89 49.50 2822 2529 56347 10680 99.9 1.283 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 90 50.00 2847 2573 57944 10745 99.9 1.267 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 91 50.50 2871 2617 59584 10806 100.0 1.251 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 92 51.00 2895 2661 61267 10863 100.0 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 93 51.50 2919 2706 62997 10916 100.0 1.219 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 94 52.00 2943 2750 64773 10968 100.0 1.204 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 95 52.50 2967 2795 66598 11020 100.0 1.189 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 90 50.00 2941 2746 67215 10390 100.0 1.188 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 90 50.00 2710 2331 48680 10788 97.0 1.370

 

[Bowfishn]

H4831SC
Cartridge : 6.5-06 A-Square
Bullet : .264, 143, Hornady ELD-X 2635
Useable Case Capaci: 60.364 grain H2O = 3.919 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 25.0 inch = 635.0 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H4831 SC

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.926% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-09.3 87 49.00 2629 2194 43345 10660 95.4 1.441
-08.3 88 49.50 2655 2239 44658 10774 95.8 1.421
-07.4 89 50.00 2682 2284 46006 10886 96.2 1.401
-06.5 90 50.50 2709 2330 47390 10995 96.6 1.382
-05.6 91 51.00 2735 2376 48811 11101 96.9 1.363
-04.6 92 51.50 2762 2422 50271 11204 97.3 1.344
-03.7 92 52.00 2789 2469 51774 11303 97.6 1.326
-02.8 93 52.50 2815 2516 53324 11399 97.9 1.308
-01.9 94 53.00 2842 2564 54922 11492 98.1 1.291
-00.9 95 53.50 2868 2612 56568 11582 98.4 1.273 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 96 54.00 2895 2661 58267 11667 98.6 1.256 ! Near Maximum !
+00.9 97 54.50 2921 2710 60018 11749 98.9 1.239 ! Near Maximum !
+01.9 98 55.00 2948 2759 61824 11827 99.1 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
+02.8 99 55.50 2974 2809 63688 11902 99.2 1.206 ! Near Maximum !
+03.7 100 56.00 3001 2859 65611 11972 99.4 1.190 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.6 100 56.50 3027 2909 67596 12038 99.5 1.175 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 96 54.00 3022 2899 69088 11410 100.0 1.168 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 96 54.00 2722 2353 47695 11345 93.1 1.372

 

[Bowfishn]

RL26
Cartridge : 6.5-06 A-Square
Bullet : .264, 143, Hornady ELD-X 2635
Useable Case Capaci: 60.364 grain H2O = 3.919 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 25.0 inch = 635.0 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.885% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-08.8 86 51.50 2729 2365 42310 11772 99.9 1.469
-08.0 87 52.00 2756 2411 43647 11833 100.0 1.448
-07.1 88 52.50 2782 2458 45030 11889 100.0 1.428
-06.2 89 53.00 2809 2505 46461 11940 100.0 1.407
-05.3 89 53.50 2835 2552 47938 11991 100.0 1.387
-04.4 90 54.00 2861 2599 49457 12040 100.0 1.368
-03.5 91 54.50 2887 2647 51019 12089 100.0 1.349
-02.7 92 55.00 2913 2694 52626 12138 100.0 1.330
-01.8 93 55.50 2939 2742 54283 12185 100.0 1.311
-00.9 94 56.00 2964 2790 55993 12232 100.0 1.293 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 94 56.50 2990 2839 57756 12278 100.0 1.275 ! Near Maximum !
+00.9 95 57.00 3015 2887 59574 12323 100.0 1.258 ! Near Maximum !
+01.8 96 57.50 3041 2936 61451 12368 100.0 1.240 ! Near Maximum !
+02.7 97 58.00 3066 2985 63387 12412 100.0 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
+03.5 98 58.50 3091 3034 65386 12454 100.0 1.206 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.4 99 59.00 3116 3083 67450 12497 100.0 1.190 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 94 56.50 3110 3072 71971 11798 100.0 1.169 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 94 56.50 2803 2494 44474 12786 98.9 1.420

 

[Bowfishn]

H1000
Cartridge : 6.5-06 A-Square
Bullet : .264, 143, Hornady ELD-X 2635
Useable Case Capaci: 60.364 grain H2O = 3.919 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 25.0 inch = 635.0 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H1000

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.862% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-08.6 96 53.00 2642 2217 41268 11207 95.8 1.458
-07.8 97 53.50 2670 2263 42516 11319 96.2 1.438
-06.9 98 54.00 2698 2311 43807 11427 96.7 1.417
-06.0 99 54.50 2725 2358 45126 11530 97.1 1.397
-05.2 100 55.00 2753 2407 46521 11629 97.4 1.378
-04.3 101 55.50 2781 2456 47948 11724 97.8 1.358
-03.4 102 56.00 2809 2505 49424 11814 98.1 1.339
-02.6 103 56.50 2837 2555 50952 11899 98.4 1.320
-01.7 104 57.00 2864 2605 52534 11979 98.7 1.301
-00.9 104 57.50 2892 2656 54172 12054 98.9 1.283
+00.0 105 58.00 2920 2707 55869 12125 99.1 1.265 ! Near Maximum !
+00.9 106 58.50 2948 2759 57627 12189 99.3 1.247 ! Near Maximum !
+01.7 107 59.00 2975 2811 59450 12248 99.5 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
+02.6 108 59.50 3003 2863 61339 12302 99.7 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
+03.4 109 60.00 3031 2916 63299 12350 99.8 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
+04.3 110 60.50 3058 2970 65335 12392 99.9 1.178 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 105 58.00 3067 2987 68231 11671 100.0 1.164 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 105 58.00 2712 2334 45225 11790 92.9 1.394

 

[Bowfishn]

Remember COAL and Case volume changes a lot of the velocity and pressure. When working up a load watch for velocity as higher velocity means higher pressure with in the same Powder. You could have loose barrel or tight barrel (fast or slow, tight being fast, that means higher pressure) If you load to a longer COAL and are not jamming the lands then you will have higher case volume available as well as a case with higher H2O volume will allow for more grains of powder without hitting pressure levels. Once you have established what COAL you can use and what the case volume is we can run numbers again.
I have a 6.5 Creedmoor and use HBN coated bullets. I load to a COAL of 2.88 - 2.890" with 143 ELD-X bullets and using RL26 I am able to get 2999 fps with in pressure, when testing I got 3054 fps but according to QL I was up at the 70K marl for pressure.
It is possible for you to hit 3100 fps with HBN coating on your bullets.

 

[TBuckus]

Thanks bowfishn, I owe you one. That info gives me a great starting point.
Between salmon fishing and deer season going on, I'm hoping to get to the range with my new toy.

 

[RT2506]

My buddy had a 6.5-06 and H4831 with 120 to 140 gr bullets is what worked for him.

 

[jwing]

Vit n 165, CCi br 2 140 Berger 3027fps, single digit es, was the best in my gun.

Last time I shot it, 4" 3 shots at a 1000

 

[jwing]

Also try retumbo, my buddy's rifle like it. H-1000 is also good, never shot rl-26 mine shoots so good not messing with it, I have had it to 3200 fps but good with the 3027fps load. Good luck.. great round you won't miss he 270!!

 

[sundance1972]

Been a couple years, but RL25 and 140 Accubonds worked well in 8 and 9 twist barrels. 142 Matrix was also good in the 8 twist, but useless in the 9