.308 long range and hunting rifle

Motoman006

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I have the Viper PST 6-24 FFP and its a phenomenal scope for the money. I would do some shopping around, thought I heard some place was offering 15% off on vortex scopes and midway won't have them back in stock for God knows how long.

i was looking at the HS-t model, a little cheaper i called optics planet they said $579.99 and website shows 639.99 so decent discount, but they dont have it in stock and says 3-7 months back order! midway is out of stock as well
 

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Thanks guys I'm pretty stuck between a the savage 10 and the remington 700 5r..
I looked threw a buddies vortex 6-24 and i really like the scope and can be had under $700
Now I just gotta figure out which rifle is for me
im really stuck between the two.. Both seem to be great out of box rifles, only thing I'm reading is since remington got bought out there QC has gone downhill.. Is this the same with the 700 5r?

That is not the case with the 5R's. I have never heard of one that didn't shoot exceptionally. Not that it isn't possible for a lemon to escape every now and then, which is possible with any brand of rifle, but I have never heard of a 5R that wouldn't shoot sub-1/2 MOA with handloads, with a competent shooter behind the trigger.
 

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i was looking at the HS-t model, a little cheaper i called optics planet they said $579.99 and website shows 639.99 so decent discount, but they dont have it in stock and says 3-7 months back order! midway is out of stock as well

The HST and PST are the same as far as quality of glass, the difference in price mainly comes from SFP vs. FFP - the HST is basically a bare bones PST and that's all you'll need. I bought mine from AJ @ Euro Optics, great guys do deal with and they should be able to give you another ~10% off if you pay with e-check.

Vortex Viper Riflescope - Vortex Viper HS-T Riflescopes
 

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thanks for both responses guys

as far as the gun im still undecided! there is way to much info on both guns online

the scope im looking for the MOA version since i know how to adjust them, im not to familiar with the mrad version and thats the only one in stock
at eurooptics they are out of stock as well.. i have emailed a few places to see if they have the scope in stock

made a few calls on the scope and can get a good deal but no one has it in stock in the MOA!
10-12 weeks
 
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The HST and PST are the same as far as quality of glass, the difference in price mainly comes from SFP vs. FFP - the HST is basically a bare bones PST and that's all you'll need. I bought mine from AJ @ Euro Optics, great guys do deal with and they should be able to give you another ~10% off if you pay with e-check.

Vortex Viper Riflescope - Vortex Viper HS-T Riflescopes

The HST also has a wire reticle vs an etched glass.
 

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I've been playing with Tikkas a lot lately, and now I have zero interest in new Remington's or savages. Out of the box with any loads my t3 308 shoots sub-half moa. With its 208 amax pet load (loaded long because it's a tikka) I'm getting groups under .25 moa. Just food for thought...
 

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5R Remington Mildpec 700. I have owned four since introduced, and have a couple of buddies that own them as well. The cuurent models shoot every bit as good and have the same quality as the originals. I haven't seen one that didn't produce under .5MOA out of the box.
 

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I know my 5R .308 shoots groups under .25 MOA with my Berger 210 VLD load. Haven't had a chance to go shoot my new 5R .300WM yet, so can't comment on it's behalf. But I have no doubt it will shoot just as good as my .308.
 

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I know my 5R .308 shoots groups under .25 MOA with my Berger 210 VLD load. Haven't had a chance to go shoot my new 5R .300WM yet, so can't comment on it's behalf. But I have no doubt it will shoot just as good as my .308.

What weight of bullets does it like? Would I be able to shot 168 and 175 grain or does it like the heavier bullets better
 

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With that budget I'd do what many others have said: Remmy 5R or a Tikka. For glass: no personal experience, but people seem to be really happy with the NF SHV line of scopes.
 

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What weight of bullets does it like? Would I be able to shot 168 and 175 grain or does it like the heavier bullets better

168, 175, and 210 is all I have tried. I haven't tried the 215 Hybrid, as I haven't had the funds to order a 500 pack.

It shoots everything 168 to 210 exceptionally. It likes the Nosler Custom Comp 168 & 175 gr bullets. It loves the Berger 168 VLD's. And my 210 VLD load was something I stumbled upon by accident several years ago, and it was a one-shot deal. I was doing some brainstorming and wanted to try a heavy-hitter for LR capabilities, and I loaded some up, and it just happened to absolutely love the very first batch I loaded, so I stuck with the same powder charge and everything. The more I shot the rifle the more it broke-in, and now it is surgically accurate. It took about 100 rounds to finally settle into it's groove, but once it did, it was amazing. It was like a light switch got flipped on, and it went from 1"-1.5" groups (brand new) to sub-1/4 MOA groups after break-in and load development.
 

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110 also likes anything from 168 - 210s, I will say that it seems to like the heavier bullets better for anything over 300 yards, but it's accurate even with factory 180gr Super-X... As has been the case since the inception of this thread, the Savage, 5R, and (most likely) Tikka will all be very good shooters out of the box. Stop speculating and reading stuff online and go try out some rifles. You'll be surprised at how much easier the decision becomes.
 

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110 also likes anything from 168 - 210s, I will say that it seems to like the heavier bullets better for anything over 300 yards, but it's accurate even with factory 180gr Super-X... As has been the case since the inception of this thread, the Savage, 5R, and (most likely) Tikka will all be very good shooters out of the box. Stop speculating and reading stuff online and go try out some rifles. You'll be surprised at how much easier the decision becomes.

Even though we disagree on brand, we can certainly agree on this statement...
 

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I wish I knew guys who had both rifles so I could shoot them
No one around here has them in stock
So was just trying to research as much as I could before ordering one
One thing about the remington I'll have to swap out s trigger and cost me another 150-200
And now savage has a $100 cash rebate making the savage quite a bit cheaper
I'm sure either will be a good rifle and I can't go wrong with either one
 
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