300 REM or 338 edge?

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by justinc68, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. justinc68

    justinc68 Well-Known Member

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    Just curious as to if there is an advantage with one over the other for long range hunting. Most likely will build it as a long range walking / sporter rifle with a nice muzzle break.

    If this has been discussed before at length please link me to the thread.

    Thanks!
     
  2. vikingsniper

    vikingsniper Well-Known Member

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    Well the case is the same but the speed advantage goes to the 300 while everything else goes to the 338's. Recoil may be alittle stout with either one but a good muzzle brake will fix that. What kinda ranges do u want to stretch out to?
     
  3. justinc68

    justinc68 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah i figured the 300 RUM has the speed advantage while the 338 has the advantage of the 300 grain bullets.

    Id like to shoot as far as i can. Elk/deer size targets to a max of 1000 i would feel comfortable. But use it to shoot for fun as far as i can?

    whats a good range to be able to shoot for Elk?
     
  4. vikingsniper

    vikingsniper Well-Known Member

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    Id go with the edge if your looking at a 1000 yd elk hunt. As far as hunting gets I like to get as close as I can to ensure a clean shot and proper bullet expansion/fragmentation. I do like to test and practice marksmanship skills and various long ranges but when taking somethings life ,I do like to get as close as possible. I believe thats why they call it hunting.
     
  5. Engineering101

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    Either will work but you hit the nail on the head regards 300 grain bullets (the 300 grain Berger in particular) which my nephew is running at 3040 fps out of his Edge using RL-33. Think about it. That is 6,150 ft lbs using a bullet with a BC of 0.818. The 300 RUM isn't even close.
     
  6. HuntnID

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    I have an Edge and the energy it hits an animal with is incredible. Watch some videos of animals being shot with an Edge and it speaks for itself.
     
  7. justinc68

    justinc68 Well-Known Member

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    Great information guys. I think the edge is the way to go. And i appreciate everyones input.
     
  8. Yotechaser

    Yotechaser Active Member

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    Go to Shawn Carlock's web site, or look at different threads here to see "Realistic" speeds from the Edge. There is a difference between the highest speed possible out of a gun and speeds that give the highest accuracy possible.
     
  9. ultraedge

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    RL 33 will give good accuracy from EDGE rifles with 300 gr Bergers at 3050fps out of 30" barrels. Mabia and I have shot H-1000 AND Retumbo alot but after testing we are changing to RL-33. Velocity gains of up to 200fps and good accuracy and cheaper! What's not to like? Gary
     
  10. justinc68

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    Great info and thats good speed. id like to hit that 3000 fps mark.

    Do you see alot of Velocity changes with different tempatures with the RL33 powder? is it tempature stable?
     
  11. Mabia

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    We are getting great accuracy and speed out of RL33 in our Edge Rifles. Gary has about 7 338 Edge's and it shot good in all we tried it in ( even my Edge ) I checked speeds with a Magneto Speed and confirmed drops at 1200 yards, I don't know how you can get more realistic speeds than that.

    Randygun)
     
  12. Mabia

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    Temp stability was good, saw a slight increase in colder weather. I'm really starting to like this powder, I shot 102 gr with a 300 gr Berger OTM this weekend and it was shooting 3048 fps average. I have pictures of a 3 shot group that is about 3/8" at 200 yards. The target that we confirm drops on is less than 1 moa (9 7/8" X 11 3/4") and we shoot it anywhere from 1000 to 1400 yards. The extra velocity seems to cut down on wind correction. Later in the year when it gets warmer I am going to see if we get any pressure spikes.

    Randy
     

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  13. justinc68

    justinc68 Well-Known Member

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    wow thats great info. Thanks. I was looking into some realistic speeds out of the 338 edge. and that 3000 fps mark would be great to reach. thanks for all the information. keep me posted if you get any pressure spikes in warmer weather.

    justin