How will Hornady’s remain relevant with Federal Premium’s evolutionary market breakthrough?

Hornady will no doubt make some changes but old man Hornady will have to approve The 6.5CM had to be engineered and developed without his knowledge as his mantra was, "We make bullets" not cartridges. I do find it ironic that Federal is going after Hornady by adapting a cartridge Hornady introduced. There is no way Hornady will fold. They are the big guy on the block with Federal second. They may switch places but that is about it.
Hornady has been loading ammo since 1964.
 
Hornady has been loading ammo since 1964.

They have manufactured physical cartridges for a long time but another entity designed, tested and SAAMI'd it. It is a whole new world to design and introduce a NEW cartridge…aka the 6.5CM.
 
But but but but

125 will hurt the subscriber numbers. Got to say at least say 250 to get a better check at the end of the month.

All joking aside I do wish this could work. Steel is much cheaper per pound than copper (brass is 70% copper), maybe 15-20 less powder to achieve velocities that bigger cartridges use
Hope this steel alloy will be as reloadable as brass.
They will as you can reload the 7mm Backcountry, Lee is making the dies.
 
Very correct, except that the people who invested millions into the engineering design, testing and production report that the steel case contains the pressure and the rifle itself does not deal with any significant increase in chamber pressure.
I always thought that the reason rifle manufacturers used all that thick steel in their actions was to contain all that pressure generated by the sudden gas expansion created when the primer ignited gunpower. Now I find out that a steel cartridge case can contain pressure? Hmmmm...... Not so sure....

I also always thought that ammunition makers used steel cartridge cases to limit reloading, therefore selling more loaded ammunition, and as a huge cost savings because steel costs a tiny fraction of what copper and zinc (brass) costs.
 
I always thought that the reason rifle manufacturers used all that thick steel in their actions was to contain all that pressure generated by the sudden gas expansion created when the primer ignited gunpower. Now I find out that a steel cartridge case can contain pressure? Hmmmm...... Not so sure....

I also always thought that ammunition makers used steel cartridge cases to limit reloading, therefore selling more loaded ammunition, and as a huge cost savings because steel costs a tiny fraction of what copper and zinc (brass) costs.
That thin steel case isn't going to contain anywhere near 80K psi without serious backup. Bolt thrust I don't know about. The case head and primer pocket will be stronger. I'm with you. A strong action will still be necessary with steel cases.
 
Hmmmm, you mean those crazy Russians figured out something years ago with all that cheap steel cased ammo that we all used to say was junk and it would scratch the chamber, heck didnt germany start using steel cased ammo during ww1 due to shortages of brass? --- now its "the next best thing"?
Kinda like bell bottom jeans?
 
Hmmmm, you mean those crazy Russians figured out something years ago with all that cheap steel cased ammo that we all used to say was junk and it would scratch the chamber, heck didnt germany start using steel cased ammo during ww1 due to shortages of brass? --- now its "the next best thing"?
Kinda like bell bottom jeans?
When stuff was a bit scarce, used reload that Wolf 45 ACP, for the ol tackle box Colt, not even a whimper out er.
 
I am absolutely not from a blue state, Texas born and raised and I adhere to the redneck mentality of most things. I still hunt with a 30-30 when I'm in thick woods which was my first in 1965, so I've been doing this a while. I'm getting rid of my 6.5 Creedmoor stuff, dies, bullets, cases and rifle. I just don't need it anymore and I'm getting older so I don't need as many guns as I have. I have other rifles that do everything the 6.5 can do plus what it can't or shouldn't do.
I've been to Missouri, nice countryside, reminds me of my friends in the river bottoms of Arkansas.
Maybe I took your post wrong. It read condescending.

I'll leave my guns to my kids and grandkids... along with other valuable things I hope. My grandparents were subsistence farmers back in NC. It was important to them to leave their kids better off than they were. My parents did the same. My brother and I inherited a little land and some cash. I hope to leave my kids much better off. I inherited half of 25 mountain acres in NC. I have over 180 acres in N Missouri now and hope to buy more. I'm old enough to smell retirement. I still want to leave my kids better off than we were.

I'm not anti-6.5 CM at all. I bought one for each of my grandsons (3, 2, and 1 years old). Still the idea of a "turbo" 6.5 CM in my area is mostly met with smirks.
 
Hornady will no doubt make some changes but old man Hornady will have to approve The 6.5CM had to be engineered and developed without his knowledge as his mantra was, "We make bullets" not cartridges. I do find it ironic that Federal is going after Hornady by adapting a cartridge Hornady introduced. There is no way Hornady will fold. They are the big guy on the block with Federal second. They may switch places but that is about it.
 
Hornady will no doubt make some changes but old man Hornady will have to approve The 6.5CM had to be engineered and developed without his knowledge as his mantra was, "We make bullets" not cartridges. I do find it ironic that Federal is going after Hornady by adapting a cartridge Hornady introduced. There is no way Hornady will fold. They are the big guy on the block with Federal second. They may switch places but that is about it.
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I didn't read here anything about Hornady folding, but watching competitor eat their lunch and loosing market share might be impetus to innovate. Counld be a great thing.
 
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I didn't read here anything about Hornady folding, but watching competitor eat their lunch and loosing market share might be impetus to innovate. Counld be a great thing.
Who is eating their lunch and how? I asked earlier but who besides Hornady has "innovated" a successful new cartridge? They're the driver behind prc and Creedmoor. I like WSMs but they aren't on par as far as market success. 7mm BC isn't. 6.8 Western isn't.

Federal producing a niche cartridge to be fired by a Hornady created caliber... doesn't indicate that Federal is now leading innovation. What in fact else has Federal done recently except make overpriced bullets and mediocre brass? I wish they WOULD push Hornady... but they aren't. This one thing doesn't change that.
 

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