Guide shoots to 600 yds after watching backfire.

I really have been thinking about something similar as far as practice goes prior to these vids coming out. I would use steel instead, and physically move to different spots to shoot. Steel would stay in the same place. That way I'm not comfortable in one spot and I'm moving around to keep the heart rate up. If I'm starting to feel frisky, I'll add a time limit per station.

This guy did a great job. Most of his misses would have likely struck an animal is my guess.
 
FireFlyFishing said:
These vids have told me….learn how to range with the reticle. Laser doesn't always cut it.
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Reticle ranging is not accurate. The formulas have error built into it the further you go. Accuracy also is dependent on your ability to be within .1 of a mil, in reading and your target be measured exactly.
We don't even use this for military application anymore. It's considered a legacy skill.

Learning your equipment is part of the solution. The POG in the last video was not experienced in the discipline of long range precision; and was humbled.

Many don't know that that the reticle in the laser is not always centered on non commercial (non military) lasers. Take your laser try to hit a power line at some distance, you'll see what I mean. Where you get your reading on the lasers quadrant is where the actual laser is going, and you'll need to use that around bushes. That, and there's a time and place to use a first and second priority mode.
 
Never done that challenge but shooting milk jugs started my long range shooting passion. Busting jugs at 400 I thought I was a sniper lol. Every year I set jugs at 200, 300, & 400 to check zero. Down south that FOREVER!!!! lol. One year stretched it to 500. Then on a DIY mule deer hunt years ago it paid off. He was 410 yds. Took me 5 minutes to shoot him. Couldn't believe I was actually going to shoot an animal at that range. Keept telling my self it's a milk jug. The 100gr. TTSX dropped him. I'm going to have to try that challenge. Thanks for sharing the video. I just hope I do at least as good as he did.
 
marc357 said:
those skinny-barreled Tikkas are good for about three shots before they start to walk a little bit in my experience.
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Lower right was fowler, 20 shots about as fast as I could reload, with max handloads from my factory Tikka. The barrel was absolutely sizzling.

What direction do they typically walk?
 

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dfanonymous said:
Reticle ranging is not accurate. The formulas have error built into it the further you go. Accuracy also is dependent on your ability to be within .1 of a mil, in reading and your target be measured exactly.
We don't even use this for military application anymore. It's considered a legacy skill.

Learning your equipment is part of the solution. The POG in the last video was not experienced in the discipline of long range precision; and was humbled.

Many don't know that that the reticle in the laser is not always centered on non commercial (non military) lasers. Take your laser try to hit a power line at some distance, you'll see what I mean. Where you get your reading on the lasers quadrant is where the actual laser is going, and you'll need to use that around bushes. That, and there's a time and place to use a first and second priority mode.
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OK, to further the discussion:

If you were to attempt this challenge, would you use a ranging/mil/moa reticle or a rangefinder?

Of the two choices

Which reticle?

or

Which rangefinder?
 
coop2564 said:
Pretty good video on backfire challenge to 600yds. Wyoming guide, using factory equipment tries his luck on real hunting field milk jugs out to 627yds. 20 shots. I personally think he should of let barrel cool more. Real hunting you are not going to just shoot one after another. What y'all think?
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My question is, as you were missing to the right with a hot barrel, after it cooled did you adjust to the left or hold the same? Was it the hot barrel or did the rifle need adjustment to the left at those distances?
 
Dam good video...... experienced shooter.... knowing his equipment... shows exactly how hard it is to make quick shots .... with hot gun.....
I believe with a good hunting rifle.....capable of .3 MOA..... WITH A BRAKE ...being able to see impacts.....I would shoot 3.... including siters.....let barrel kool for 5 minutes.........
Good rangefinder..... duplex reticle...... dialing up scope for each range..... adjust for windage on the fly judged from previous shot... PRACTICE...
Not saying I could do better..... jus saying out past 300 yds. the challenge is exponentially greater.....
OMHO..... let the flames roll.....
 
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coop2564 said:
Pretty good video on backfire challenge to 600yds. Wyoming guide, using factory equipment tries his luck on real hunting field milk jugs out to 627yds. 20 shots. I personally think he should of let barrel cool more. Real hunting you are not going to just shoot one after another. What y'all think?
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looking for a good guide.coming down from canada
 
Nice shooting I think. I agree you don't normally shoot that much hunting BUT if you shoot PRS you shoot 10 round strings and and f class is 20 round s to rings so his video is a great example. My wife and I set up a walking course, we carry exactly what we hunt with, bipods , tripods , backpacks, we move targets randomly so we have to range them every time , we use a different route often so we don't shoot from the same place every time. So yes I think his video is pretty dang good . Mabye more folks should try it before bumping lips !! Jmho!
 
Idaho Lefty said:
We wouldn't LET my 12 y/o grandson Hunt with his, .243 Win Tikka,.. until, he could Hit, a 10 inch Dia., steel Plate, 5 times, in a Row at,. 325 Yards.
From Prone,.. over, a Pack.
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We didn't go quite that strong. We require three shots in a 3" bullseye at 100 yards. Of course, once the kids start shooting and enjoy it they do better. Minimum rifle we'll allow is 243 Win.
 
Darryle said:
OK, to further the discussion:

If you were to attempt this challenge, would you use a ranging/mil/moa reticle or a rangefinder?

Of the two choices

Which reticle?

or

Which rangefinder?
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Both. I need to learn to use that reticle more.

I use a lot of vortex scopes with busy reticles. I'm an MOA guy.

A lot of thought goes into those reticles. The more I rely on the reticle the better my shooting gets.

Last year when I blasted my elk, my 300 WM was wearing a 5-20 razor. I didn't have time to dial. The elk spotted us and were getting antsy. My buddy ranged the elk at 418. I did a hold over with the reticle, and achieved a bang flop.

I love laser range finders! Until they don't work…or give you a false reading. Which happens in timber or brush. I liked the way Backfire hid the gallon jug in the brush on the original challenge vid. Perfect time to use your fancy reticle.

I just figured out how to quickly range with my ballistic calc on my phone and my reticle without having to do math. Pretty handy.
 
Ldigio21 said:
My question is, as you were missing to the right with a hot barrel, after it cooled did you adjust to the left or hold the same? Was it the hot barrel or did the rifle need adjustment to the left at those distances?
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He seemed to be pretty forthright in his video. He made no mention of making adjustment while barrel cooled.
 

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