Necessary precision to kill something

What exactly are you shooting? Because a .45 G7 at 3500fps still drifts 3" at 1000 lol. And both of those are unrealistic numbers when combined hahaha
I like it, run your own numbers.
Shoot a 390 grain ATIP from a 36" .375 Snipetac at 3150 fps. Surely the numbers can't lie!?😂 IMG_5217.jpegIMG_5216.png
 
I actually just ran those exact number in the hornady app and it's still 3" drift with 1 MPH wind?? Can't trust any of these apps!!
Here it is in Hornady 4DOF. IMG_5218.jpeg

Edited to add: let me say that I didn't post that to brag about a rifle, it was an example of "when someone says" vs my own reality (or is experiences the right word?). Honestly when I heard that podcast my first thought was for him to quit grandstanding. I've listened to almost all their podcasts and thought informative think of it more as entertainment. When you suggest/imply that someone perhaps shouldn't shoot at such-n-such distance at game in the mountains because you punched in some made up numbers into a computer simulation, my initial response is "Cool story bro". Listening to that I found out that not only does my rifle not shoot that well, but I suck at shooting and my wind calls really suck (4+/- mph or 8 mph variation ((or worse!)). But that's ok because you are in the background shooting some of the largest/toughest animals around (elk) at some fairly long range with a .223 of all things. But hey, you've shot thousands of rounds a year in the mountains so it's ok. Now I could care less about what they do, I like it (to a point) when guys push past what is believed to be the limits on things as that's how we grow in knowledge. However don't point a finger at others when pushing limits either.
 
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100%.

People should go shoot in actual mountains at distance on vital-sized targets and realize chasing small groups and shooting a flat range or on a bench is not your best use of practice time. Most folks cannot call wind within 4 mph at their position, let alone at the target and in between. Especially in mountainous terrain.

Wind, updrafts, downdrafts, shooting position, brush/obstacles, slopes, rifle zero, heart rate, etc are legitimate hunting variables that nobody accounts for in stale shooting practice.

Then add a timer to up the pressure and folks really fall apart.
I agree! I use to drive my self nuts with group size and then decided to start shooting practical hunting situations. I am fortunate to have an area in the mountains where we can hike and train physically, but also set up and shoot out to 1000 yards and beyond. Laying prone, sitting, side hill, and angled shots sure educate a guy on what he needs in his setup (equipment) to pull these shots off.
The targets we shot are 18" circles. I feel that is a good average for game size vitals in average. It's crazy how you can hit one of these consistently one day, and another hit all around but not touch the paint.
 
I like it, run your own numbers.
Shoot a 390 grain ATIP from a 36" .375 Snipetac at 3150 fps. Surely the numbers can't lie!?😂View attachment 553404View attachment 553405

I also got 3" of drift at 1mph 70 degree and sea level........just curious, how much does that rifle weigh? Either way that's a wind cheating machine comparatively speaking.
 
I actually just ran those exact number in the hornady app and it's still 3" drift with 1 MPH wind?? Can't trust any of these apps!!

Off your data here is what I get
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If you input these parameters and got 3" instead of 2", then it appears the numbers can lie…who'd have thought it. My point wasn't to try and see what that rifle actually does (or doesn't) do for every 1 mph of wind. My point was to do your own investigating and not listen to a podcast, video, or read something on the internet and take it for gospel. I'm this case, where I posted what a specific rifle/load was capable in a certain condition, I was merely displaying that a comment was made and it wasn't entirely factual.
 
I also got 3" of drift at 1mph 70 degree and sea level........just curious, how much does that rifle weigh? Either way that's a wind cheating machine comparatively speaking.
I got 2.5 with my kestrel. The rifle is a switch barrel rig and in that configuration (for ELR) is 24.5 lbs with a NightForce NXS and no bipod. With the 30" hunting barrel and a lighter scope it's 16.5 lbs.
Some rifles are exceptional in capability out to some very long ranges.
But I digress, was simply making a point.
 
Oh there is definitely 1/2 MOA rifles. Just not hunting rifles, in various field conditions lol. But 20lb guns with $2000 rests on a concrete slab. Absolutely.
I have 3 Brown precision hunting rifles that are 1/2 MOA capable and all weigh in at 8 1/4 lbs or less fully outfitted. Can I make a 1/2 MOA shot in the field? NOOOO. But they give me the confidence that my rifle is up to the task.
 
I actually had 3 opportunities to shoot animals at around 1000 yards this year. I ended up killing them at 100, 130 and 206 yards lol
That's the smart play, and responsible play.

Real world, getting opportunties @ 1k (insert you range) is easy, the hunt comes in when you're working to get closer.

Good on you!
 

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