Copper Bullets

Im going to go ahead and shamelessly plug my company Cutting Edge Bullets. We have over 360 different bullets in everything from 22lr-50BMG. We've been around since 2008 so I have to say, i'm a bit bummed I dont read about us more on forums!

Our patented SealTite™ band is the reason behind why you dont see fliers with our bullets. Fliers are commonly associated with monolithic bullets due to their inability to upset like a lead core bullet. This patented feature is also why you see less copper fouling with our bullets compared to other monolithics.

I could go on and on, but I will spare you the rest of the sales pitch. Thanks for reading!

 
I guess you've had better luck than me. It took me about 85 out of 100 bullets to figure them out in my 25-06. I'm shooting the 116 grain, and as a final attempt out of frustration, I tried seating them .010 off the lands with 52 grains of Reloader 26. Should've tried that first. Duh! I got 1 1/4" groups at 200 with that attempt. I ran another group and it was 1 3/8" at 200, and considering I'm not the deadeye I was 30 some years ago, I'm plenty happy. I was beginning to think I spent 3k building that rifle for nothing.
Give me a call 812-364-6183, I believe there's more in it yet
 
Thank you everyone for the suggestions and information. I was able to find a box of Hornady CX and a friend of mine had some Barnes LRX for me to try out. Hopefully my gun likes these bullets so I don't have to waste too much component. Oh, and I agree with Ucsdryder, gotta stop the bullying. These forums should be for healthy discussions. Again, thanks!!
 
X3 on Hammers. I'm 5-for-5 in a row stacking up dead whitetails that haven't moved after being shot. People call it a cult, I call it using what works for me.

I'll add Cutting Edge, but only because Hammer doesn't make saboted muzzleloader bullets. Badlands Precision and Maker Bullets also specialize in copper monos. I have a bunch of Badlands to try. Makers are my go-to in subsonic loads.

Black Butterfly sells pre-loaded Maker Bullets ammunition that is kind of the opposite of Hammer and CE - instead of fracturing these bullets open significantly more than a regular mushroom and cut more like an arrow broadhead.

Most manufacturers offer some kind of drawn wire copper bullet - Barnes, Hornady, Nosler, etc. (like he listed there ^) but they tend to be designed to mushroom similar to a CoreLokt or other traditional cup and core bullet. I don't want that, I want either the petals to shear off, or the bullet to expand significantly more. Making monos act like old bullets is shortsighted to me.

Make sure you know your barrel twist rate, depending on what chambering/caliber you're shooting you might be surprised at how fast it needs to be. But a big upshot is you can run the bullet significantly faster. Part of the "Hammer Cult" is shooting light for caliber bullets significantly faster than normal. I used a more traditional weight of180gn Hammer Hunters in my 30-06, but in 6.5 Creed I use 85gn bullets that run several hundred FPS faster than 120-140gn lead bullets, and they hit HARD.
Like to hear more about the 85 in 6.5 Creed
 
That is true. I was looking at Hammer bullets and the BC are pretty low. There are so many choices and I'm taking all responses from everyone and use it to see how it fits me and my budget.
That's the spirit!
Be critical of people's statements that this bullet or that bullet is the "one and only", the "supreme in the galaxy", etc., etc. There is no perfect (silver ;)) bullet. Every single one has its own strengths and weaknesses, some more than others. Also, be skeptical of marketing hypes. A hunting bullet, especially at long (but also at very short) distance has to have something that target bullets don't need: terminal ballistic performance. That is a very tricky subject, and for big game, it must have:
1. weight retention/integrity for at least the first 3-5 inches inside the target animal, until it gets into the vitals area, when
2. it has to provoke massive tissue/bone disruption, and
3. to relinquish most of it's energy inside of the animal (not great if 50-80% of the energy is still with the bullet after it exits the animal on the other side
This way, the bullet will humanely dispatch the animal, provided that the hunter does his/her part, and has proven confidence on bullet placement.
Single metal (Copper alloy, etc.) bullets tend to create a wound channel, rather than a dramatic energy release. They tend to have very high weight retention, but they also run the risk of not opening the "petals" or doing that partially, or even worse, one-sided => not enough energy dump, changed internal trajectory => risking an animal lost. Some are doing better than others, but the only way to inform yourself is to look for serious tests conducted (preferably, not by the manufacturer ;), but by reputable experts). Users testimonials can be valuable, but there you have to use plenty critical thinking, to separate the wheat from the [massive] chaff...
Needless to say that, in order to send it far with acceptable precision and accuracy, it has to have a high+consistent BC7 (or radar-verified trajectory)
 
Give me a call 812-364-6183, I believe there's more in it yet
Lol, maybe, but I'm not sure there's any more in the shooter. Wished I knew someone close by that was a really, really good shooter, and let them have a go to see what they can shoot with this rifle.
 

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