Side Arm for Grizzly Country

[Deleted member 115374]

This thread certainly has been thought provoking. I would hope that there are guys and gals out there that have been following it have said to themselves things like. Hmm, maybe I should pull my pistol out and shoot it a little before I strap it on and just assume that because I am carrying it I am protected. Or maybe they might find out that they are carrying the right gun for them but the loads they are shooting are totally inappropriate for the task at hand - bear defense. Or maybe they come to the conclusion that the gun they are carrying isn't up to the task at hand and they relied on advice from someone who shouldn't be giving advice in the first place. At any rate, I am glad that you guys have gone to the extent you have in providing data on calibers etc.. because maybe some people are paying attention and it just might save someone a trip to the emergency ward or worse. No matter what your flavor, be it wheel gun or semi-auto. The first round out of the barrel needs to find the sweet spot and if your lucky the next one or two during the melee hit to hurt as well.

 

[DirectDrive]

Never heard a .mil member brag about the reliability of the M9 and especially its magazines.

Nice story.
Thanks for playing.

 

[DirectDrive]

One thing I've noticed reading all the 10mm haters comments is that they are the voice for the big bore wheel guns.

I wonder how many of these Revolver Commandos actually train in double action ?
Seeins' how that is how it will go down.


Just sayin'

 

[swe123]

I wonder how many of these Revolver Commandos actually train in double action ?
Seeins' how that is how it will go down.


Just sayin'

I wonder how many of them train.

 

[sea2summit]

Nice story.
Thanks for playing.

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[Mustang72]

Good point in double action practice. I don't consider myself a revolver commando but I shoot both single and double action. My every day carry is a 3 inch 357. My hunting carry and sometimes concealed carry is a 4 inch 44 mag. I used to carry a semi and still do at times. The dust and dirt I work in I had to take them apart and clean them every week of I wanted to be able to rely on them. Got tired of cleaning all the time and went back to a revolver. Plus plenty of rattlesnakes so other than winter or a trip to town my first shot is snake shot. Maybe I am old school but I don't feel undergunned with 5 shots from a 357 and 5 more in a speed loader. But since it about bears my 44 mag is The gun that I shoot the best and with the most confidence. Only thing that comes close is a 1911.

 

[Pdvdh]

I wonder how many of these Revolver Commandos actually train in double action ?
Seeins' how that is how it will go down.


Just sayin'

Ouch. Still reading???
I sense some sensitivity. Remember, it's just a thread discussing sidearm selection for bear defense.
And different strokes for different folks.
Beyond that, since you wonder, I practice double action with both hands, and one handed too, in case my other's damaged or in the bear's teeth. Practice is a good idea with any bear defense sidearm.

 

[27 Gap]

This thread certainly has been thought provoking. I would hope that there are guys and gals out there that have been following it have said to themselves things like. Hmm, maybe I should pull my pistol out and shoot it a little before I strap it on and just assume that because I am carrying it I am protected. Or maybe they might find out that they are carrying the right gun for them but the loads they are shooting are totally inappropriate for the task at hand - bear defense. Or maybe they come to the conclusion that the gun they are carrying isn't up to the task at hand and they relied on advice from someone who shouldn't be giving advice in the first place. At any rate, I am glad that you guys have gone to the extent you have in providing data on calibers etc.. because maybe some people are paying attention and it just might save someone a trip to the emergency ward or worse. No matter what your flavor, be it wheel gun or semi-auto. The first round out of the barrel needs to find the sweet spot and if your lucky the next one or two during the melee hit to hurt as well.

I'm on the fence which to run with an how to train with it. Seems like stress testing is best, but with a 500? The fear of AD'ing my shoulder off rings in my ear.

 

[D.Camilleri]

Practice is important with any side arm you carry. Right before deer season I decided to load some max loads for my 454 with 31 grains of lil gun and a 300 gr nosler partition handgun. I headed out to the range and engaged a target at 7 yards, hit, hit, hit, cylinder stuck, rut ro I don't know what happened, because all loads were carefully measured and weighed. I had to beat that stuck case out of my cylinder with a punch. I went back and loaded up 50 more rounds with 29 grains and called it a day. I did shoot my 5 point bull in the head with one of these just because he wasn't quite dead yet.

 

[Deleted member 115374]

I don't consider myself a "Revolver Commando" or a 10mm hater. I have no experience with the 10MM, nor do I claim to. My preference for the wheel gun comes down to a couple things. One being I don't have to worry about the semi-auto malfunctioning under extreme weather conditions. The other being I can shoot my wheel gun and have confidence in my ability to put the round where I want it when I need to. I have a 9MM in semi auto and I don't shoot it well. My son can pick it up and shoot it lights out. Having said that why would I pack a semi-auto when I have little confidence in putting the round where it needs to go. Certainly not because someone told me it was better, whether I could shoot it or not. I will leave that up to the Semi-Auto Commandos.

 

[VLD Pilot]

Ouch!!! Still looking ? Revolvers ALSO malfunction !!!

 

[VLD Pilot]

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[Savage 12BVSS]

Been reading the entire thread with interest, as I said at the start of my post I've never took on a grizzly at close range with a handgun and probably most posters haven't as well. Not a commando at all just someone who has shot wheelguns my entire life, I know if it comes to stopping a large bear I want the first bullet to wreak havoc on an attacking animal. It won't be a long shootout any way it comes down. Just can't forget what that big wheelgun of my sons will do at close range and a double action is as fast as you can get on target. I hope if ever in that type of scenario I have the biggest handgun you can get and yes I can handle it. Would suggest that if you can't then learn how to pray fast Talk about training all you want nothing would train you for that but a big bear!

 

[sp6x6]

Six years straight my son qualify expert rifle and pistol in Marines.Hes been thru SWAT,school also.Lots off 1000's of round in adverse conditions.He packs 4'' -44,he can shoot.