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hey Mike Matteson can you tell me what bullet this is!!?? Shot was 684 yards .. impact velocity was 2343fps energy 3657ftlbs on a 6x6 bull elk slight quartering flattened him like a pancake!
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Not 1 deer or elk after many animals thats why I still use them.. I wonder just how many animals have been lost, because of this?
Did you even look at the difference between them, the pointy end with the hole in it is the same through all the lines, which means they are an open tip bullet and as such and expanding bullet. Target bullets are designed for accuracy first, does not mean they don't work very well as a hunting bullet which should be obvious to you by now since the ONLY difference is the jacket thickness between the two.I am going by what Berger state on the Web Site. There Hunting and Target bullets. There no Target/Hunting bullets, on the boxes, nor what they showing in their adds. Nor do they say use for hunting on their target bullets. I wonder why? Target bullets aren't mint to expand like a hunting bullet. I just went through several state hunting regulations and only one I found anything on of bullet that require Soft Point Bullets. So I stand corrected somewhat. I know one thing for sure I won't being using Target bullets for hunting bullets, except on varmints. I seen lot of gunshot wounds by full metal jacket bullets, and more wounds done by soft point bullets in my years. F.M.J. don't compare to the destruction that a soft point does.
I was wondering when this history lesson was going to hit this thread. I was about to post it myself. The original target bullet got relabeled hunting without any changes to the manufacture process. Those bashing everyone who hunts with. 215 berger out of a 300 win mag have no idea who they are bashing. Some of these expert shooters and hunters observe scores of kills or more each year with these bullets. Hundreds of kills over their lifetimes. Compare that experience with your own personal experience with the bullet before bashing every hunter that uses this bullet.The ONLY difference between the Hunting and Target is a few thou of jacket thickness so they can handle the in bore environment of a target shooter, that is it, there is not a hunting design either by they way, the hunting line is the original target line that was renamed when a bunch of hunters found out they got better results than the hunting bullets they were using and talked Eric and Walt into the fact that their target bullets also hunted extremely well and they should market them to us so they renamed the thinner jacket Hunting and the thicker Target, shazam Hunting bullets!!
What tells me a bullet is good for hunting is shooting, opening up and cutting game, that is the ONLY thing that I believe, marketing is just that, blowing smoke up your butt hoping it tastes good!!
after reading some comments on this thread, the only thing I'm going to do is add some people to the "ignore" list due to the massive ignorance.
Berger's flat out kill stuff. In fact my friend killed 2 elk with 1 shot ( killed the bull and a fragment killed a cow bedded down about 20 yards behind it) with the 215 Berger. Brother killed a dandy 6x6 @403 yards with a 308 w/168 Berger (30 yard recovery).
"It's all about shot placement" is touted here all the time..... unless it's a Berger bullet.