ralphjunius
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Its not loaded to the same pressure. If you do its over 200fps.
7mm Rem Mag on the decline?
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LRNut
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Well, the 28N blows the 7 RM away; I know, I have had 4 RMs and 2 Ns.
And I would also say the 28N is more accurate.
We seem at times to stray away from the answering the question. That is certainly not a criticism of any contributor, as it often gives valuable new life/issue around the topic.
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ralphjunius
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Just handload and you will optimize what you can do with this fine round, as many here do. There are still plenty of good brass and bullet offerings, even if squeezed for a while by the hoarders. cheers
25WSM
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Normally the main question is answered adequately on the first page. But what fun would it be if we stopped there. To one up the 28nos just put a 7mm bullet on a steel rod and fire it from an electro magnet rail gun. Now you have the fastest most impractical 7mm made. I'm s big fan of the 280ai from a perfect balance of powder to power ratio. As I have said before the 7mag isn't going anywhere it's here to stay.
Shep
Shep
LRNut
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One is on a Borden action, the other a Stiller. I can seat them right up to the lands. One shoots a 195 Berger at 3005 while the other is 2990.
I will also mention the barrels are 28," so that makes a difference.
When I used a 7RM I shot a ton of stuff with it: 11 caribou, four sheep, five pronghorns, an ibex, truckload of plains game including zebra, and who knows what else. To 25 WSM's point, it worked like a champ.
I am 60, so I have been around longer than most here. I shot all with my 7RM before laser rangefinders existed - back then a flat trajectory mattered; today it doesn't (within reason). For a while I zeroed it at 400 yards and then held at the bottom of the brisket. I used a combination of a modified Ranging 1000 coincidence rangefinder and a series of custom stadia wires to estimate range. Shot a sheep at 360 and two caribou at around 375. Shot an antelope at 455, which is the longest kill (or attempted shot) prior to laser rangefinders (and to be honest, outside of prairie dogs, only shot one animal farther than 455 even though I shoot out to 1300 or so several times a week). Just haven't had the need...
25WSM
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I feel the same way about how velocity meant alot more before we had real good pocket range finders. But now that we know the range within a few yards wind drift is more important. So now I'm big into the long skinny bullets. Some day there might be a wind analyzing meter that can see wind all the way to the target and give you an exact value. Wouldn't that beat all. Better than sliced bread. And toilet paper.
Shep
Shep
LRNut
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Yes, wind is a four letter word in long range shooting. I am going to buy a Ventus as soon as they become available. My guess is it will be at least as big as LRs were when I bought a Leica Geovid for $4500 back in 1993. It will also show us indisputably how far is too far, for once the wind changes enough during TOF to blow you off target (a 1/2 rifle only has a 2.5" inch wind error tolerance when trying to hit a 10" target at 1000 yards), you are too far. You can apply Bryan Litz's WEZ model concept today even without a LIDAR anemometer; no matter what caliber you shoot, what BC, or how fast, at some point you cannot hit a 10 inch target (or 12, etc) reliably due to the fact your wind error is so small it is guaranteed to be exceeded by wind changes during TOF. And that range is a lot shorter than a lot guys are shooting game, at least on this site.
Bob Wright
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My memory is a little rough these days, and I'll risk going thru the wood chipper over this.
I believe the USA F Class around 2013 ran the 7RM for the international team event and won with it handily. It was about the time I picked up a used rifle in 7RM.
It inspired me anyway, to shoot further and started me into the long range journey.
I just could not find the results and info on the net to paste here.
Anyone shoot F class and can confirm?
I believe the USA F Class around 2013 ran the 7RM for the international team event and won with it handily. It was about the time I picked up a used rifle in 7RM.
It inspired me anyway, to shoot further and started me into the long range journey.
I just could not find the results and info on the net to paste here.
Anyone shoot F class and can confirm?
Orange Dust
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There is a reason the 7RM is, and should remain one of the most popular Magnums. It comes from something we used to call the ballistic triangle. The triangle points are range, killing power, and recoil. The legs are very equal on this cartridge. Very well balanced with 150-160gr bullets, accurate, and easy to load for. One of the few times Remington got it almost right... If they had only listened to Mashburn. 
Another story for another day, but there would have been no need for the great STW or the 28 Nosler if they had.
Another story for another day, but there would have been no need for the great STW or the 28 Nosler if they had.Buck Fever
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I know 284 Winchester has had a resurgence beginning 10 or 12 years ago, maybe a bit longer. It won a few championships. I haven't heard of 7RM doing that but I am by no means up on the results of competitive shooting events.
25WSM
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My friend won the world open at the 1000 Williamsport matches with a 7mag. With a remington 700 and a Simmons scope.
Shep
Shep
gbett308
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Yeah, the 300wm is on the decline...stop buying them so I can get some more ammo. hehe
