throating 7mmRemMag for 180 eld-m

If you know that you have a very competent smith I would just have him throat it out but I think it would need to be much longer than .095"? Probably almost double that?

You are right Rich. I've done some research now, and thought it would be a good idea to report back. I'm no gunsmith (and I welcome corrections, and/or if anyone can confirm my results) but I've looked over two different reamer prints and here's what I've come up with: the freebore for a 7mmRM optimized to shoot 160+ grain bullets should be in the neighborhood of .295" (edit: this is WRONG. See page three of this thread and you will see the correct value is .268") This should result in a COAL under 3.700" with all but the 195 grain 7mm bullets, keep most of the bullet out of the case to maximize volume, and still keep plenty of the bullet body in contact with the neck. For those who want more details, see below.

But first this: I find it hard to believe that nobody else (especially on this forum!!) has thought of optimizing the 7mmRM for heavy bullets. So my question to you all is this: Does anyone here have a 7mmRM reamer with a freebore in that neighborhood that they would be willing to let me use (or rent) to chamber my barrel?

My dummy round has a 180 grain ELD-M bullet seated with the boat-tail junction of the bullet just above the shoulder-to-neck junction of my brass. According to my Sinclair International OAL comparator (which I trust slightly more than my Hornady comparator) the base-to-ogive length of my dummy round is 2.818". (Since comparators differ, for further reference, COAL is right about 3.675") Looking at a 7mmRM reamer print with a .114 throat, the lands start at 2.534". Looking at a reamer print with a .179 throat the lands start at 2.699" (EDIT: this is where I went wrong originally. I was looking at the wrong number on the reamer print. Again, see page 3 of this thread for the correct calculations). Therefore, assuming my bullet comparator is reasonably accurate, a reamer that would fit my dummy round would have a freebore in the neighborhood of .295".

I should also add that I seated several other bullets to the same OAL, using the same comparator, just to see how they would fit in the neck of the case at that OAL. My goal is to throat not for a particular bullet, but for heavy 7mm bullets in general. A 160g Accubond, which has a much shorter boat-tail, seated with the boat-tail junction right at the neck-shoulder junction of the brass, meaning fully in the neck but extending not-at-all into the body of the case. Perfect! A 175g Accubond Long Range seated with the bullet body contacting about 2/3 of the neck, and the (loooong) boat-tail extending beyond the neck into the shoulder area of the casing. Again, pretty perfect, in the sense that it's still making plenty of contact with the neck but not extending into the case much at all. (I wish I had some 162g ELD-Xs to test, but I'm all out of those.) My conclusion is that as long as you don't want to shoot bullets lighter than 160 grains, then an OAL of 2.818" (= freebore of .295") is pretty ideal for heavy 7mm bullets.

As mentioned above I welcome corrections and/or confirmation of my numbers, for the good of all.
 
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I did think of it and I'm working on putting one together! My Savage limits my OAL to 3.500" max though. So I set my dummy rounds with a 180 ELD-M at 3.480". It's the best I could do and keep it a repeater.
 

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I did think of it and I'm working on putting one together! My Savage limits my OAL to 3.500" max though. So I set my dummy rounds with a 180 ELD-M at 3.480". It's the best I could do and keep it a repeater.

I'm shooting a Savage too. One option is to go with an aftermarket BDM bottom metal and mag system, such as the one offered by PT&G. I ran a thread on that about a month ago. That will get you 3.7" COAL. Figuring I have nothing to lose if I was switching bottom metal anyway, I did some "special modification" to my Savage magazine box to extend it, and then I also had to do some more Dremel modifications to the Savage bottom metal to fit the longer mag box, but in the end it all worked and the 3.67" rounds feed perfectly.
 
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I didn't do all the math but that sounds like an awfully long throat?

I agree! Like I said I would love it if someone did the math to confirm my numbers. That's part of the reason I provided all my info, including the COAL, which anyone should be able to match since it doesn't depend on a comparator. My Hornady comparator, by the way, gave an OAL of 2.93", so about another .1" longer!

What really surprised me was how perfectly the 160g Accubonds fit. I was thinking they would end up barely in the neck. I wish I had just ONE 162g ELD-X left sitting around, but it's not worth buying a box of them just to see how they seat since I don't plan on shooting anything under 175g.
 
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OK....OAL is 3.480 with 180gr Eld-M. Base to Ogive is 2.665" which gives it a freebore of .165". If I understand correctly, you want an OAL of 3.670"? So that would be a freebore .355" by my measurements and math.
 
Looking at a 7mmRM reamer print with a .114 throat, the lands start at 2.534". Looking at a reamer print with a .179 throat the lands start at 2.699".

Something is wrong with your first set of numbers. The case is 2.500". Add .114 and your at 2.614". The bottom numbers are close but I'm still at 2.679" with a .179" throat?
 
knowing where the 180 sit in my 7saum and adjust for different neck length .263 should be what your looking for
 
knowing where the 180 sit in my 7saum and adjust for different neck length .263 should be what your looking for
 
Looking at a 7mmRM reamer print with a .114 throat, the lands start at 2.534". Looking at a reamer print with a .179 throat the lands start at 2.699".

Something is wrong with your first set of numbers. The case is 2.500". Add .114 and your at 2.614". The bottom numbers are close but I'm still at 2.679" with a .179" throat?
I think he is talking about where the lands would start if you had no free bore. The SAAMI measurement for that is 2.5398". He is looking at a reamer print and they aren't always the same as SAAMI.
 
I think he is talking about where the lands would start if you had no free bore. The SAAMI measurement for that is 2.5398". He is looking at a reamer print and they aren't always the same as SAAMI.
OK, so minus .040" and your at. 315". It seems really long to me, but so is the OAL he is wanting 3.670".

That also puts mine at more like .125".
 
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