Take your pick really, they are all great. I have owned 2 of the 3 and they were awesome. I have a Zeiss 85 for my heavy, low light scope, close to the truck and then I have a new Swaro 65 ATM coming that will be the scope I take on long walks and back pack trips. I had a 65 ATS previsously and a elk guide talked me out of it last fall, so I am replacing with a ATM. Check with Doug from Cameraland or Lerch from 3rd Generation, both sponsors here. I have bought mine from these two guys. Personnally I think the Zeiss is the best deal in the scopes you are asking about, but everybodies eyes are differant.