Reloading equipment upgrade ?

martinakl

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I am in the process of up grading my reloading equipment. My question is what would you do first. Purchase a AMP annealer Zero press or a Autotrickler. I have a Annealeez annealer Rock Chuck press and a Charge Master now.
My vote, on how to spend your money, is the Area 419 ZERO press.

I don’t need one but I want one.
 

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Are you really looking to upgrade or just spend a lot of money to do what you are doing now. Your Rock Chucker press make near top end ammo. The Anneal Eez work as good as any annealing system and cost hundreds less. The only thing you might improve on is the charge master and that will be hundreds more. Just my thoughts.
 

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I just got a redding t-7 turret press. I would vote for a turret press. Either t-7 or zero as you mentioned.
 

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I am in the process of up grading my reloading equipment. My question is what would you do first. Purchase a AMP annealer Zero press or a Autotrickler. I have a Annealeez annealer Rock Chuck press and a Charge Master now.
LOL, Well,,, Their all nice equipment, lets see.,,,,
1) You have an Annealeez,,, You defiantly do not need an AMP Annealer. But they are nice. I have the New version Of the Annealeez annealer also, it Works Great. To be honest, It doesn't get much better. The AMP is nice but try to anneal 500 223 cases in one sitting, it will be a pain in the old hand joints and time consuming., unless you spend the other 3 grand to automate it,
2) You have a Rock Crusher. By all means that Zero press is very impressive looking and the guys over at Area 419 are great at what they do, But by all means you do not need that press. I'd be looking at a Forster, and really you don't need that to produce, great ammo. I was banging out concentric ammo on a lee Breech lock press ( with less than 0.0007 run out) way before I bought my Neco concentricity gauge. I spent almost $200.00 on a gauge just to verify that my bullets were concentric. Buy you a concentricity gauge instead of a press. That Rock Chucker will do the job as long as there is no wobble in the ram and linkage.
3) Throw the Charge master out the window and drop almost $1200.00 on an FX120i and Auto Trickler combo. You want be disappointed. I went with the new Sartorius Entris II BCE223i model with the V3 Auto Tricker combo. That's just shy of $1500.00 back in August. So get ready to mess up a credit card. Justin over at Data Weighing System can hook you up with the latest and greatest mods from Area 419 also. This is the best money that I have ever spent on a scale or any reloading equipment in my Reloading Room. It was worth the butt chewing that I got from the wife also. In reality,, you don't need this either. But, fore as long as I have been Reloading, It's nice to have.,, A set of RCBS 505 balance beams will do the job effectively.
So,, like WildBillG said. Are you wanting to upgrade or just spend money??? JMH2C
I would upgrade my scales and then later on down the road look at upgrading my press and dies. The AMP annealer you will never need. That Annealeez will out last your demands on annealing, and it is fast, I love the hopper.
Good luck on your decision and keep us posted on your final thoughts, And research every peace of equipment before you buy it. Buy once, Cry once.
 

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I am in the process of up grading my reloading equipment. My question is what would you do first. Purchase a AMP annealer Zero press or a Autotrickler. I have a Annealeez annealer Rock Chuck press and a Charge Master now.
If you decide to up grade your annealer I would be interested in your annealeez
 

OldHunter59

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LOL, Well,,, Their all nice equipment, lets see.,,,,
1) You have an Annealeez,,, You defiantly do not need an AMP Annealer. But they are nice. I have the New version Of the Annealeez annealer also, it Works Great. To be honest, It doesn't get much better. The AMP is nice but try to anneal 500 223 cases in one sitting, it will be a pain in the old hand joints and time consuming., unless you spend the other 3 grand to automate it,
2) You have a Rock Crusher. By all means that Zero press is very impressive looking and the guys over at Area 419 are great at what they do, But by all means you do not need that press. I'd be looking at a Forster, and really you don't need that to produce, great ammo. I was banging out concentric ammo on a lee Breech lock press ( with less than 0.0007 run out) way before I bought my Neco concentricity gauge. I spent almost $200.00 on a gauge just to verify that my bullets were concentric. Buy you a concentricity gauge instead of a press. That Rock Chucker will do the job as long as there is no wobble in the ram and linkage.
3) Throw the Charge master out the window and drop almost $1200.00 on an FX120i and Auto Trickler combo. You want be disappointed. I went with the new Sartorius Entris II BCE223i model with the V3 Auto Tricker combo. That's just shy of $1500.00 back in August. So get ready to mess up a credit card. Justin over at Data Weighing System can hook you up with the latest and greatest mods from Area 419 also. This is the best money that I have ever spent on a scale or any reloading equipment in my Reloading Room. It was worth the butt chewing that I got from the wife also. In reality,, you don't need this either. But, fore as long as I have been Reloading, It's nice to have.,, A set of RCBS 505 balance beams will do the job effectively.
So,, like WildBillG said. Are you wanting to upgrade or just spend money??? JMH2C
I would upgrade my scales and then later on down the road look at upgrading my press and dies. The AMP annealer you will never need. That Annealeez will out last your demands on annealing, and it is fast, I love the hopper.
Good luck on your decision and keep us posted on your final thoughts, And research every peace of equipment before you buy it. Buy once, Cry once.
I agree. I reloaded for 30 years using a balance beam, then a charge master, then about 10 years ago I purchased an a&d 120 with auto trickler. I checked the other measures and they were often off by 2-4 kernels of powder. The investment in a good scale makes the most significant difference in the entire process imho.
 

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I am in the process of up grading my reloading equipment. My question is what would you do first. Purchase a AMP annealer Zero press or a Autotrickler. I have a Annealeez annealer Rock Chuck press and a Charge Master now.
I would go with a forster coax press benchsorce annealer ,and for long range the old 10-10 but I only shot maybe 1200 rounds a year
 
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