Recent grizzly attacks on Montana elk hunters

Discussion in 'Elk Hunting' started by remingtonman, Oct 3, 2019.


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  1. nmbarta

    nmbarta Well-Known Member

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    Better to have something than nothing, there isn't a handgun that's adequate to stop a charging grizz with one shot without hitting grey matter, most rifles won't drop them in their tracks. Carry whatever your comfortable with, and keep a few prayers in the mag, if you have to pull a pistol on a charging grizzly, those prayers are your best bet.

    This is a long range hunting site, and we all know why we do everything we can to reduce recoil in our rifles...... It's so we can hit stuff with them. Same goes for handguns, but even worse, a flinch with a short barreled handgun can result in a miss by several feet when shooting at targets that are less than 20 yards away. I shoot as many or more rounds out of my handguns every year than I do my rifles and can assure you that it takes more practice to become a good shot with a pistol than it does a rifle. A long range rifle requires more technical knowledge, but a handgun requires more shots down range imo, I suppose some of that depends on what your naturally good at....but....I can hand my rifle to someone who has never shot one before and have them hit a plate at 200 yards the first time they pull the trigger, and then have the same person shoot a pistol at a refrigerator box at 20ft and miss the whole box.

    If you can shoot big handguns well, it's a great option for you......If you can't, let's face it....your bear food, so leave your 10mm at home and fill your pockets with berries so you taste good.
     
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  2. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    Didn't a guy in Wy get killed packing a 10mm?
     
  3. nmbarta

    nmbarta Well-Known Member

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    Yes, very sad deal.
    Likely a training issue, no gun does you any good if you don't know how to use it and have it readily available. Not shots were fired, there was nothing wrong with the gun, there wasn't a round in chamber if I'm not mistaken.
     
  4. Wlfdg

    Wlfdg Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    He died because he didn't have the gun at hand. Not because it was a 10mm.

    Correlation ≠ Causation

    Good try!
     
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  5. fiftybmg

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    A grizzly is a lot bigger than a male lion. It can move as fast over short distance. It has longer claws, and equal teeth. It's not as stealthy as a lion, but in bear habitat, they are easier to stumble upon accidentally.

    I've never heard of anyone carrying a handgun as backup for lion.
     
  6. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    The second guy couldn't get the semi to function, revolver you pull the trigger till done.
     
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  7. bigngreen

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    Looking at the power class of a 10mm on average your going to have to run three rounds into a bear to equal one 454 Casual in energy, it's not going to have the penetration capability either.
     
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  8. Wlfdg

    Wlfdg Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    That's the guns fault?
    Seems like it's operator error. The client panicked
    It had nothing at all to do with the 10mm being insufficient firepower
     
  9. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    Didn't stay that, just pointing to the simplicity of the mechanisms!
     
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  10. Wlfdg

    Wlfdg Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    Sure
     
  11. remingtonman

    remingtonman Well-Known Member

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    That was guide Mark Uptain I believe. From the reports there was never even a round chambered in the 10mm.
     
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  12. bigngreen

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    Holy cow Nancy, he was packing a 10mm semi auto, sorry I assumed when talking about a 10mm it being in a semi auto package since that's what 99 percent of 10mms are in, there are some exceptions but the norm is semi.
     
  13. remingtonman

    remingtonman Well-Known Member

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    Better to have a 10mm in the hand than nothing at all is the way I look at it. Hits count,misses dont.
     
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  14. bigngreen

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    Nope, he set it down with his pack and the client could not or did not know how to use it since he had no training, he simply could not pull it out and pull the trigger.