Push feed or controlled feed?

[Rhino Hunter]

All my big game hunting rifles are Ruger M77, M77 Mark II, or Hawkeye which are all CRF. So, I guess I prefer CRF.

 

[25WSM]

How do you dump rounds out of a 700. If you unlatch the bottom plate any gun will dump rounds. I can't see how you do that cycling a round.
Shep

 

[Lasiter]

How do you dump rounds out of a 700. If you unlatch the bottom plate any gun will dump rounds. I can't see how you do that cycling a round.
Shep

I have heard of this. For it to happen, the length of the round would be shorter than average, the rails a little loose, and the rifle jostled/ turned sideways or upside down, so that the the round springs from the magazine before -- as you point out -- the tip of the round enters the chamber. It is not a likely event, but I have heard of it often enough to believe it.
The real advantage of CRF is on extraction.

 

[the hunter]

Never used a CRF, so push feed it is.

 

[Deleted member 107796]

I have both and don't sense any real difference. I read a good review about comparing both types, sorry can't recall the source, but it was a pretty comprehensive test involving several different shooting positions. His conclusion was no real difference.

 

[Danehunter]

All my rifles have been push feed since my first Rem. 700. So far no problems. I've had Ruger's and a Savage 99 C lever gun (yeah, push feed too). Currently I have a Browning A-Bolt and X-Bolt Pro which are 3 lug push feed bolts. All work very well.

Eric B.

BTW, The US SOCOM Precision Sniper Rifle Solicitation (1st and 2nd round) did not call for CRF in the specs for a modular (caliber/cartridge change) sniper rifle.
Both the Remington Defense 1st round choice and the Barrett MRAD 2nd round choice have PUSH FEED. That is how (un)important CRF is to the US military. And of course ARs and machine guns are also PUSH FEED. Seems to work for them in combat situations.
Jus' sayin'...
E.B.

 

[Rich Coyle]

All other things being equal, if you have a failure to extract a fired case and the extractor pulls through/tears the case rim, it is far more likely to be one of those dinky, money-saving extractors than a big Mauser or Winchester.
That's why they are called "Big Game" rifles. Which would you prefer when facing a Griz , or two?

Push feed!

 

[Rich Coyle]

The real advantage of CRF is on extraction.

Yep.

 

[Aldon]

If for some reason your were to advAnce the round with a push feed to point it releases from the magazine and you then bring the bolt back, should you turn or rotate rifle for whatever reason, your cartridge has a likleyhood of falling from the chamber. While it is potentially plausible that it could happen with a CRF, the chances are a lot less.

Some in precision rifle shoot the CRF for that reason.

This is second hand knowledge to me so perhaps it is not wholly true. But it seemed trustworthy.

 

[rugers]

How do you dump rounds out of a 700. If you unlatch the bottom plate any gun will dump rounds. I can't see how you do that cycling a round.
Shep

Let me correct my self, sorry about that, I have witnessed people after 1st shot cycle a push feed and the round falls out of rifle be it improper bolt cycling or a sudden jarring of the rifle , I personally have never done it, I have never witnessed this in crf, it's usually just one round not all of them

 

[Lahunter76]

I currently own, a Winchester 70classic and a Sako 75 in a CRF, LOVE them both, absolutely beautiful actions and Bolts and just as an aesthetic mind set, I personally like my CRF actions. Now I have also shot push fed actions in a Remington, Winchester, Weatherby, Browning and I have never nor has my father had an issue. I currently am shooting a 257 Weatherby vanguard, and will soon be shooting my 300 Weatherby Mark V, semi custom. Between me and my father......we have abused our rifles and killed countless white tails over last 35+ years with both!!!

 

[skippertwo]

I have 3 Dakotas 25/06, 30/06 and a 338/06 they all work flawlessly I guess that makes me a CRF fan.

 

[25WSM]

I currently don't know anybody in PRS shooting a control feed action. Most are copies of 700s made by custom shops. I don't know of any true target type actions with crf.
Their might be a guy or 2 using a Winnie with crf but probably not.
Shep

 

[Gord0]

Which do you prefer?

Do you think one has an advantage over the other?

I like them both, and have them both. I'll take the one that shoots the smallest groups. Now if I were to be hunting some elephants or other dangerous African game like that with a bolt gun... Give me a belted cartridge with a controlled round feed.