300 to 400 is a brush gun?
New build. Short barreled silenced. Which round
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Jakeweb09
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i suppose not really haha. I'll probably put a 1-8 scope or something similar. So I want a gun I can carry through the thick and not feel like I won't be able to get a shot off but still be able to shoot a bit farther no problem
elkaholic
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Didn't mean you. There are usually a couple lying in the weeds ready to pounce!
MOOSE39465
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Oh yea for sure.
bdyal1972
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338 federal in a 18" barrel with 200/210 bullet and suppressor would be a DRT HAMMER out to 500yards.....
Matt Tatum
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I have a 18" 6.5 creed that I love. I get 2677 in the 130 gr game king. It keeps 700 foot pounds of energy to 750 yards. Stays super sonic to 1199. I shoot a tbac on it 100% of the time. Probably one of my favorite rifles.
264MHC
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Just remember that the more powder and the smaller the bore, the harder it will be to suppress. I think that's why 308s are so popular for this purpose. I think a 6.5x47 would be great for this purpose and I would personally run 130s. Maybe get 2750 with a 16.5. I like the 338 federal idea too, but that of course requires a 338 bore suppressor which are typically both longer and heavier.
John Klingenberg
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I've tried short barrels and love the handy lengths for the field....but I dont think high velocity is going to happen. My 18" 260 never passed 2600 with 140s and they were pretty hot loads. At 2565 I figured I may as well be shooting a grendel. So I did. It's a great round at the ranges you're talking. If you need more horse power a .308 makes sense. With a suppressor the magnums dont make sense in a short barrel. You'll be in the velocity ranges of non-magnums with 40% more powder. In these days of powder shortages you're trading 2 for 1. Someone pointed out to make sure your can is rated for that.
cjl2010
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What's your experience with short barreled magnums?
Jakeweb09
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thats kind of the idea of going magnum. to get velocity of a non magnum with a short compact. I realize it's using more powder for the same speed, but it's with a much shorter barrel. So it's worth it to me. I know powders are hard to find but I've yet to be nervous about running out. I've always been able to find what I need as long as I buy when available
John Klingenberg
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None, I dont see the point really. But necessary and just want to do it is a decision for the individual. If your Sherman is running 2950 in a 20" will it lose 50 to 100fps per inch shorter? So a 16" gets 2750 at 50 fps loss or possibly 2550 with a 100 fps loss. Now you're back to non magnum velocity with a heck of a lot more powder and blast. You can be pretty close to that velocity with non magnums I can tell you for a certainty an unsuppressed 260/308 in a 16" hurts me to shoot with double ear protection.
None, I dont see the point really. But necessary and just want to do it is a decision for the individual. If your Sherman is running 2950 in a 20" will it lose 50 to 100fps per inch shorter? So a 16" gets 2750 at 50 fps loss or possibly 2550 with a 100 fps loss. Now you're back to non magnum velocity with a heck of a lot more powder and blast. You can be pretty close to that velocity with non magnums I can tell you for a certainty an unsuppressed 260/308 in a 16" hurts me to shoot with double ear protection. I rarely shoot my guns that aren't suppressor ready anymore because I dont care for the blast. I think OP said he was looking at 16.5" barrel.
Jakeweb09
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i also plan to run suppressed 100%of the time. And I believe it's closer to 25-50 FPS per inch. Putting you closer to 2800 FPS. Even at 2750 in a 16.5 inch set up I'd be thrilled.
