I am a new-b to the long distance shooting. I am strictly a hunter so an ethical shot is is very important to me. I am wanting an 800 yard gun. I currently have a standard Rem. 700 stainless/syn. in 300RUM. I am loading 180 gr noslers in it and it shoots right at an inch at 100 yards. Triger is at about 3 pounds and I have a Zeiss 4.5x14 with the z-plex out to 800 yards. I just had a muzzle break installed and have not shot it since the break. I have read a lot on this forum, awesome info!! I think my next step is a new stalk. What next? I am in the process of loading some VLD's in 190gr for the 300RUM. I am working up in 1/2 grain incriments until I find a load for a sub moa group then I will fine tune the load going up or down from what ever load shot the best. I am loading rotumbo (sp) powder as it seems to be the populer choice for the RUM. Any other advise on loads? Is this off the shelf gun capable of shooting sun moa groups and consistant groups out to 800 yds? Even if the gun is capable I will need lots of practice before I feel confident. I am also considering a 7MM for a long range gun. Again I like the rem. 700 action and weight is a bit of a concern but I sure like how the sendero feels. I have a leupold 6.5x20 to top which ever 7mm I buy. What is everyones opinion on the sendero vs. a standard stainless/syn. 700? The bullestic coeficency seems to be very popular/good with the 7mm's. Please school me and throw out ideas. It seems the more i read the more confused I get. There is a lot to long distance shooting and I am in need of lots of help and advise. Most importantly will my 300 do it or is the sendero in 7mm a better option? Thanks for such a great site!!