Ive been all over the place with how I work up loads and have yet to settle on quickest way to find a decent load with out burning to many components. I am not a competition shooter but do strive to get .5-.75MOA groups out of a load. If I cant get that, I try another bullet etc. I have tried berger method, OCW method, Satterlee velocity method, old school pick a overall length and then load up bullets in .3-.4 grain increments to max load and test for best group. I have never done ladder testing. Honestly...It all seems to be a crap shoot for me. So just trying to see what everyone else does these days. Thanks!