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You're right, I should have been more specific.

There are Fringe elements on both sides that are willing to kill to get their points across.

The overwhelming majority of people on both sides though are not. So why are most people on both sides acting like most on the other side want them to die?
To push their agenda and force change it is just that simple divide and conquer
 
Nailed it! Socialised health care works so well that Canadians come to the US to pay for health care instead of waiting months to maybe receive it for free.



Democrats want to END privatised health care to force socialised medicine. Why should I have to suffer because I work hard and have my wonderful private health care I need. You keep making this about Dems. Vs. Republicans. You should just take your own advice and quit with your inflammatory Dems. VS. Reps. rhetoric and keep this on track please and thank you.
Let's not forget if we have socialized medicine that is just another thing that the government has control over us with sooner or later they will control everything unless we stand up against itAnd yes it is political it is all political whether you talk of guns healthcare control it is a circular conversation you cannot talk about one without including the rest of it if this thread gets deleted then I am sorry
 
Let's not forget if we have socialized medicine that is just another thing that the government has control over us with sooner or later they will control everything unless we stand up against itAnd yes it is political it is all political whether you talk of guns healthcare control it is a circular conversation you cannot talk about one without including the rest of it if this thread gets deleted then I am sorry


You're right, it's hard to just break a single thing out.

My comment before about getting the thread deleted was because then it's obviously straying into a discussion that violates forum rules. That's what got the last thread deleted.

But you're right, it's all connected


So far we've been talking about how we talk about politics, not actually talking politics. I've been trying to avoid actually talking politics so that this doesn't degrade into non gun topics and get deleted like the last one did
 
Let's not forget if we have socialized medicine that is just another thing that the government has control over us with sooner or later they will control everything unless we stand up against itAnd yes it is political it is all political whether you talk of guns healthcare control it is a circular conversation you cannot talk about one without including the rest of it if this thread gets deleted then I am sorry
You see how well the Govt. ran the V.A. In the past! Thank goodness this admin worked on V.A. Reform. Veterans are pro 2nd Amendment so this is still ties to the politics of guns, that way we don't get this censored/deleted.
 
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Not "changing the spin" what do you think the affiliation of the guy that purposely drove his car through a crowd of protesters was? What do you think the affiliation of the guy that shot up the gay bar in Orlanfo was? What do you think the affiliation of the white supremacists that have kelled people is?

I'm just pointing out that antifa isn't the only one doing it
White Supremacists only exist in someone's mind. I am not going to apologize for being born white, and supremacists talk is the talk of the racist bigots that are now trying to intimidate me.
 
White Supremacists only exist in someone's mind. I am not going to apologize for being born white, and supremacists talk is the talk of the racist bigots that are now trying to intimidate me.
I happen to be Caucasian myself and completely agree with you why does it always seem the left comes back with either race or hate in every argument that they are losing that is their default answer to take away your credibility
 
You see how well the Govt. ran the V.A. In the past! Thank goodness the admin worked on V.A. Reform. Veterans are pro 2nd Amendment so this is still ties to the politics of guns, that way we don't get this censored/deleted.

I dont think anyone would argue with you about the VA being horribly run lol

I knew the state VA director and he actually left the VA because of how it was run


All they did was reinforce how scary the saying "I'm from the government, I'm here to help" is lol
 
I happen to be Caucasian myself and completely agree with you why does it always seem the left comes back with either race or hate in every argument that they are losing that is their default answer to take away your credibility

I really do wish that the left cared about groups like the black panthers as much as they do the Arian brotherhood
 
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I happen to be Caucasian myself and completely agree with you why does it always seem the left comes back with either race or hate in every argument that they are losing that is their default answer to take away your credibility
The left will say what it will, but that does not make white people the bad guys on this topic. I see and feel much more racial hatred from the bigoted so-called minority than I have ever shown anyone anywhere in my life. Whatever shame is, no one will ever shame me into believing that white men did not conceive of this great country. If someone does not like our history, let them go forth and create their own history.
 
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