Does this case look ok?

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  1. tailbon3

    tailbon3 Well-Known Member

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    I've been reading these forums for a couple years or so and I love it! I have a 300 WSM I handload and am looking for a double check from you more experienced loaders. Does this case look ok? I don't know if the powder residue is a concern or not.
     

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  2. fj40mojo

    fj40mojo Well-Known Member

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    The bulge ahead of the web at the base is pretty pronounced and the soot around the neck indicates that gasses are escaping momentarily. I'm guessing that you may be setting your shoulders back a little to far causing your cases to stretch at the web and allowing the gasses to soot up the neck until the shoulder moves forward enough to seal things up. Do you have the tools to measure base to shoulder on a fired case vs one you've sized?
     
  3. rscott5028

    rscott5028 Well-Known Member

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    The powder doesn't look excessive to me and it doesn't seem to be getting to or past the shoulder.

    I beleive you can also get powder residue from light loads.

    I'm more curious about the apparent bulge.

    How many times has this case been fired?

    Are they consistently like that once, twice fired and more? Or, does it get worse?

    Are you FL or neck sizing?

    How do the primers look?

    -- richard
     
  4. tailbon3

    tailbon3 Well-Known Member

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    This is a first fired winchester case. I full-length sized it, trimmed it to size, chamfered, hand primed, then charged the case and seated the bullet.

    Here's the load data:
    Hornady 180 gr interlock SST
    59.8 gr H414
    CCI 250 LRM primers


    I wonder if I'm squishing the primers in to hard. I give'em a firm squeeze but don't really know how much is too much. the new brass doesn't have the bulge in it. The bolt lift after firing isn't sticky.
     

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  5. CRNA

    CRNA Well-Known Member

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    My 7mmRM soots the neck like that every time, but like yours, it doesn't soot to the shoulder, so I think you are ok there. At least from that standpoint.
     
  6. rscott5028

    rscott5028 Well-Known Member

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    I think the primers are seated correctly. You should just be able to run your finger across and they should be at or a hair below the case head surface. But, not above it.

    The fired case and load data sounds like a very light load and may be the cause of the soot. But, you should get another opinion. I don't have any data for that bullet/cartridge/powder.

    I think the percieved bulge is ok. It's not so pronounced in the new pictures either. I'd say that there may be a tiny bit of extra tolerance stacking up between your full length sizer (tight) and your actual chamber (loose).

    If you start to see a bright ring forming on multiple firings, you may be working the brass too much. A neck sizer or collet die may help if that's the situation.

    Otherwise, I don't see any indications that you're in danger.

    Good luck,
    richard
     
  7. loosesniper2000

    loosesniper2000 Well-Known Member

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    I don't see any visual signs of pressure, the spent primer looks good. Update us with another picture after the 2nd firing. It does seem like you're getting a little gas escaping but I don't think it's a big deal either. Pay attention when you go to seat your primers and see if it has a "tight" feel to it.
     
  8. Reloader222

    Reloader222 Well-Known Member

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    I also agree that too much pressure is not the problem. The fired primer looks just fine. I would further suggest that you check that you do not bump the shoulder too far back. Did you find this bulge on more than one case?
     
  9. meatyrem

    meatyrem Well-Known Member

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    I have come across buldges on factory loads that I fired from my 330rum.....but these were just slight buldges. Nothing too apparent
     
  10. 406pat

    406pat Well-Known Member

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    I'd say check the headspace. If that's the first firing, it looks like the case is having to do a lot of expanding to fill the chamber.
     
  11. scap99

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    That head stamp sure looks like the brass flowed. How does the stamp on this one look compared to an unfired case?

    Did you chronograph the load to see if it matches up with the published velocity in the reloading manual?
     
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  12. 406pat

    406pat Well-Known Member

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    Scap, I was thinking the same thing. I have seen a few cases where the stamping looks like that right out of the box but anything but a clean edge has been the exception rather than the rule in my experience.
     
  13. ehryk

    ehryk Active Member

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    My Remington 700 SPS Stainless in .300 WSM does the same thing with both factory and handloads. I only FL rezise every 4 loadings and even with that bulge, they chamber and shoot just fine. Maybe it's just a .300 WSM quirk?