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I am perplexed to what appears to be a very inconsistent application of logic. It seems that there is a non-trivial set of posts that revolve around a similar theme of:

"I shot one deer in X spot at Y distance with Z bullet out of W cartridge and the deer ran XX yards before dropping and/or with little blood trail. I need a better bullet."

What is perplexing is that I suspect the majority of the posters recognize:

1) A single occurrence of any event is pretty dang close to meaningless - an inch difference in point of impact or a small change in bullet path on a quartering animal can make a tremendous difference in internal damage and speed of collapse.

2) Game animals are subject to similar physiological responses to pain such as adrenaline as humans are. There are many incidents of humans enduring severe wounds and continuing to function and fight.

3) Individual animals within a species (just like humans) have different physiological make-ups: some have tougher hides, stronger bones, more elastic soft tissue. Anybody who watches football will see one player take a tremendous hit to the head get up and walk way and another take a much less hit and have a concussion or human diseases have different survivability rates.

Granted, every hunt is precious and nobody ever wants to lose even a single animal but there are a lot of variables in play that determine animal reaction and survivability other than the bullet's performance. There are several scientific studies on different mammals on responses to pain, stress, and loss of blood.

One interesting study was performed on pigs where 7 of the 20 pigs died from the same induced and then treated hemorrhaging but there was no correlation between the heart rate metrics during hemorrhaging and survivability.
 
Compare an Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan larger buck in rut to Alabama size deer. There is also what I call the "will to live" in some animals which cannot be defined. Some just have "it" and defy "logic".

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So you speculate about others you think are speculating? Hmm
Actually, no. I am perplexed by the queries that others ask given a certain set of information that has a likelihood of being known. I have never professed to be a mind reader (See rule number 4 in my signature line).
 
I too am surprised that not all animals and not all humans behave or react the same way--- especially when emotion or pain are involved --- as far as bullets are concerned we all know they always react the same no matter what conditions exist 🫣

IBTL!

Just remember that 2 is 1, and 1 is none --- but I have no idea what's going on here, so here is a bunny with a pancake on its head for you 😀
 
I too am surprised that not all animals and not all humans behave or react the same way--- especially when emotion or pain are involved --- as far as bullets are concerned we all know they always react the same no matter what conditions exist 🫣

IBTL!

Just remember that 2 is 1, and 1 is none --- but I have no idea what's going on here, so here is a bunny with a pancake on its head for you 😀
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Actually, no. I am perplexed by the queries that others ask given a certain set of information that has a likelihood of being known. I have never professed to be a mind reader (See rule number 4 in my signature line).
...and you come with your own set of rules too, lawrt! 🤣

Here I am perplexed you state it doesn't matter the bullet construction, but rather it's ALL about shot placement...
 
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