Bergara b14 hmr vs Sako a7 long range

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  1. Canhunter35

    Canhunter35 Well-Known Member

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    A buddy recently purchased a Bergara b14 hmr chambered in 6.5 creedmoor.
    Having purchased a new sako a7 long range over the summer and with only a 100 rounds through it. We thought it would be great to compare them.

    Plus’s for sako
    Sako has 26”= for myself this is a plus, and both of us enjoyed shooting the longer barrel gun with the muzzle brake and reduced barrel jump
    Sako has 3lug action= never thought it mattered but when your behind the gun the shorter bolt throw is nice

    Plus’s for the Bergara
    Hmr has 700 clone action, giving access to virtually every type of scope mount. As far as I know the only two company’s that make sako a7 20moa rails are Talley and near manufacturing. Mine has a near scope base.
    Bergara has adjustable cheek piece, but this seemed minor as the sako stock with a cheek pad is perfect fit for a 50mm scope on a 20moa rail.
    Bergara has flush cup mounts
    Bergara takes standard aics Mags, unlike sako proprietary mag.

    We both thought the stocks of each equally comfortable to shoot.
    Both triggers are adjustable and crisp.
    Both guns have shims for adjustable lop
    Both guns had 20 Moa rails, leupold mark 4 rings, and Harris bipods. the Bergara wears a sightron s3 6-24, the sako a vx3i lrp 6.5-20. Both guns weighed 12.6lbs without any ammo.
    Pretty similar firearms, same weight same caliber...but how do they shoot? Really the only thing that matters.

    The Bergara liked 120 gr amax match ammo making groups from .3 Moa to .6 Moa at 100 and 200 yds.
    The sako also shot the 120 ammo well, making several .5-.6 groups
    When we tried 140 gr eldm match ammo, the Bergara made 2moa groups. We shot several 4” groups at 200yds with it.
    The sako shot the same ammo about 1.5” at 200 yds, usually around .75 Moa. I’ve also ran a lot of American gunner 140gr bthp through it and it typically shot that around .75moa

    While my buddy continued shooting his loaded ammo through the Bergara, I worked on a load for the sako.
    Using 130gr eldm, I shot four, 3 shot groups at 41,42,43, and 44 gr of h4350, just to get an idea on load development. The largest group measured .57” at 100yds and the smallest .34” at 100. I’m pretty happy with the results thus far.

    Conclusion, the sako shot everything with acceptable accuracy. The Bergara seemed fussier with the ammo but did print the smallest group of the day with the preferred ammo.
    In a couple weeks I’ll help develop a load for the Bergara with 140 eldm and we’ll see what kind of accuracy we can suck out of it.

    On a side note: while my buddy shot 140 eldm through the sako, I said, take a poke at the 500yd gong. Using the dope id made for the American gunner ammo, I dialed 8.5 Moa for the 140 eldm(different bullet and different load) first shot was a hit! 9138A931-9C1D-48AA-90CE-3FF880002450.jpeg
     
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  2. njc89

    njc89 Member

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    Canhunter, thanks for the solid comparison. These two rifles and the Tikka CTR are on my short list for a reasonably priced target/long range coyote rifle. Are you happy with your choice?

    Would you mind measuring the mag length on your Sako? Wondering if you can load out to over 2.9” like the Sako 85 allows. Thanks again
     
  3. Canhunter35

    Canhunter35 Well-Known Member

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    0368D5E3-CE9F-4B11-9843-22990BB6DAFE.jpeg DFE1E9F4-B071-45E9-BB9B-0C95339E90AC.jpeg Yep, I can load to 2.93” with no feed problems in my sako. I settled on 2.90” as my load it’s .05” from the lands. I believe they take the same mag as the 85.

    Really happy with my sako. Would buy another in a heartbeat. Developed a load with with 143eldx that shoots under .25moa

    This is 5 shots during load development
    The gong is at 880 yds. It was windy but on a calm day should group nicely
     
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  4. djfriesen

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  5. An Idahoan

    An Idahoan Well-Known Member

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    @Canhunter35:

    Did you get around to that load development with your friend? What kind of accuracy were you able to get? Thanks!
     
  6. Canhunter35

    Canhunter35 Well-Known Member

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    We built a load with 140 eldm, h4350, and lapua small primer brass. We did powder charge, and seating depth tests and arrived at a legit .5moa load. Once he shoots those off he has some 130eldms we are going to try next
     
  7. GunsNotGroceries

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    Good comparison. I imagine it's hard to go wrong with either, but I'd take the Sako.