Canhunter35
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A buddy recently purchased a Bergara b14 hmr chambered in 6.5 creedmoor.
Having purchased a new sako a7 long range over the summer and with only a 100 rounds through it. We thought it would be great to compare them.
Plus's for sako
Sako has 26"= for myself this is a plus, and both of us enjoyed shooting the longer barrel gun with the muzzle brake and reduced barrel jump
Sako has 3lug action= never thought it mattered but when your behind the gun the shorter bolt throw is nice
Plus's for the Bergara
Hmr has 700 clone action, giving access to virtually every type of scope mount. As far as I know the only two company's that make sako a7 20moa rails are Talley and near manufacturing. Mine has a near scope base.
Bergara has adjustable cheek piece, but this seemed minor as the sako stock with a cheek pad is perfect fit for a 50mm scope on a 20moa rail.
Bergara has flush cup mounts
Bergara takes standard aics Mags, unlike sako proprietary mag.
We both thought the stocks of each equally comfortable to shoot.
Both triggers are adjustable and crisp.
Both guns have shims for adjustable lop
Both guns had 20 Moa rails, leupold mark 4 rings, and Harris bipods. the Bergara wears a sightron s3 6-24, the sako a vx3i lrp 6.5-20. Both guns weighed 12.6lbs without any ammo.
Pretty similar firearms, same weight same caliber...but how do they shoot? Really the only thing that matters.
The Bergara liked 120 gr amax match ammo making groups from .3 Moa to .6 Moa at 100 and 200 yds.
The sako also shot the 120 ammo well, making several .5-.6 groups
When we tried 140 gr eldm match ammo, the Bergara made 2moa groups. We shot several 4" groups at 200yds with it.
The sako shot the same ammo about 1.5" at 200 yds, usually around .75 Moa. I've also ran a lot of American gunner 140gr bthp through it and it typically shot that around .75moa
While my buddy continued shooting his loaded ammo through the Bergara, I worked on a load for the sako.
Using 130gr eldm, I shot four, 3 shot groups at 41,42,43, and 44 gr of h4350, just to get an idea on load development. The largest group measured .57" at 100yds and the smallest .34" at 100. I'm pretty happy with the results thus far.
Conclusion, the sako shot everything with acceptable accuracy. The Bergara seemed fussier with the ammo but did print the smallest group of the day with the preferred ammo.
In a couple weeks I'll help develop a load for the Bergara with 140 eldm and we'll see what kind of accuracy we can suck out of it.
On a side note: while my buddy shot 140 eldm through the sako, I said, take a poke at the 500yd gong. Using the dope id made for the American gunner ammo, I dialed 8.5 Moa for the 140 eldm(different bullet and different load) first shot was a hit!
Having purchased a new sako a7 long range over the summer and with only a 100 rounds through it. We thought it would be great to compare them.
Plus's for sako
Sako has 26"= for myself this is a plus, and both of us enjoyed shooting the longer barrel gun with the muzzle brake and reduced barrel jump
Sako has 3lug action= never thought it mattered but when your behind the gun the shorter bolt throw is nice
Plus's for the Bergara
Hmr has 700 clone action, giving access to virtually every type of scope mount. As far as I know the only two company's that make sako a7 20moa rails are Talley and near manufacturing. Mine has a near scope base.
Bergara has adjustable cheek piece, but this seemed minor as the sako stock with a cheek pad is perfect fit for a 50mm scope on a 20moa rail.
Bergara has flush cup mounts
Bergara takes standard aics Mags, unlike sako proprietary mag.
We both thought the stocks of each equally comfortable to shoot.
Both triggers are adjustable and crisp.
Both guns have shims for adjustable lop
Both guns had 20 Moa rails, leupold mark 4 rings, and Harris bipods. the Bergara wears a sightron s3 6-24, the sako a vx3i lrp 6.5-20. Both guns weighed 12.6lbs without any ammo.
Pretty similar firearms, same weight same caliber...but how do they shoot? Really the only thing that matters.
The Bergara liked 120 gr amax match ammo making groups from .3 Moa to .6 Moa at 100 and 200 yds.
The sako also shot the 120 ammo well, making several .5-.6 groups
When we tried 140 gr eldm match ammo, the Bergara made 2moa groups. We shot several 4" groups at 200yds with it.
The sako shot the same ammo about 1.5" at 200 yds, usually around .75 Moa. I've also ran a lot of American gunner 140gr bthp through it and it typically shot that around .75moa
While my buddy continued shooting his loaded ammo through the Bergara, I worked on a load for the sako.
Using 130gr eldm, I shot four, 3 shot groups at 41,42,43, and 44 gr of h4350, just to get an idea on load development. The largest group measured .57" at 100yds and the smallest .34" at 100. I'm pretty happy with the results thus far.
Conclusion, the sako shot everything with acceptable accuracy. The Bergara seemed fussier with the ammo but did print the smallest group of the day with the preferred ammo.
In a couple weeks I'll help develop a load for the Bergara with 140 eldm and we'll see what kind of accuracy we can suck out of it.
On a side note: while my buddy shot 140 eldm through the sako, I said, take a poke at the 500yd gong. Using the dope id made for the American gunner ammo, I dialed 8.5 Moa for the 140 eldm(different bullet and different load) first shot was a hit!
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