6.5 creed. General reloading information request 140VLD & 143 Eld

Vol1975

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looking for some general reloading information on this cartridge.
going To load for a friend rifles (2) and trying to gather information on reloading for this cartridge.
powder will be H4350 and bullets are going to be 140 VLD and 143 eld-x
24 inch barrels
I will be the one loading, shooting and working up the reloads.

if you want to list your pet load that would be great. I’ll track and see if a pattern emerges on everybody's load data listed.

brass will be Hornady for the hunting gun and lapua for the paper gun.


Any way, just
general information such load data, nodes, General speed I can expect on these bullets and where possible nodes are located , seating depth. Etc..
been trying to gather information before I start.
what I’ve found is a good starting point is 40 gr going to 43 with around 42 grains being good.
what I’ve also read is the nodes are 2700-2800 FPS. Just
looking for a general consesus on what people have Found on this cartridge.
thanks.
 

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What you have found in your research is very good information. The 6.5 Creedmoor with 140-143s and H4350 settles in around the 42.0gr mark and generally 2800fps. I would start at 40.0gr like you mentioned and work up. Seating depth is something a lot of rifles are different on. I would start both bullets .010-.020 off and then work back in .005 increments shooting 3 shot groups at each seating depth until you find a good node.
 

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What you have found in your research is very good information. The 6.5 Creedmoor with 140-143s and H4350 settles in around the 42.0gr mark and generally 2800fps. I would start at 40.0gr like you mentioned and work up. Seating depth is something a lot of rifles are different on. I would start both bullets .010-.020 off and then work back in .005 increments shooting 3 shot groups at each seating depth until you find a good node.
This is a rehash of information that you may already be aware of.
I have been using the 6.5 Caliber Hornady ELD Match grade bullets with a G1 BC of .620 in the 140-grain weight in front of 40.0 grains of H4350 for my 6.5 Caliber Creedmoor rifles.
Additionally, I have been using Starline brass with a small primer from Cascade Cartridge, CCI #450.
Muzzle velocity
This is where I've found the optimum load seating depth for both of my particular rifles.
In two rifles of the same brand and caliber, I have found a .020" jump in one rifle while the other is a. 040" jump using the aforementioned Hodgdon H-4350 powder.
With that being said I suggest that you use a fire formed case. After drilling the case head out with a letter "L" drill you can tap it for a 5 /16 X 36 TPI tap and use it in your Horandy or Sinclair brand bullet seating depth tool.
Using The Hornady LNL tool you can screw the modified case onto the tool and simply insert the bullet of your choice while following the instructions on the use of the tool.
( If unsure how to make a case consult the internet for instructions )
The Hornady modified case (caliber specific) is at best a generic case that will not give you the exact dimensions needed, close but not exact!. Therefore I recommend that you make one.
Please Note:
Once you find the shooting node using your chronograph and the Satter-Lee Test. you will be able to find the best bullet jump for your weapon.
Please note that due to throat erosion which happens to average about - .003" for every 100 rounds fired you will have to adjust the jump as required. This figure is not etched in stone and I suggest that you use a modified Ladder Test in conjunction with your chronograph in order to determine your optimum jump factor.

I think that this information will prove to be a good safe starting reference for you!
 
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Vol1975

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Thanks fellas.
been reloading a very long time but not for this caliber. Was looking at getting one for the kids down the road. Now I get to load development and experiment on a friends 2 rifles. on his dollar!!! i am interested at seeing what all the fuss is about. What research I’ve done this is a very accurate round with these loads. Being a 8 twist barrels they should do nice with these rounds.

Additional question. is the Berger hybrid 140 less sensitive to load development than the VLD?
 

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This is a rehash of information that you may already be aware of.
I have been using the 6.5 Caliber Hornady ELD Match grade bullets with a G1 BC of .620 in the 140-grain weight in front of 40.0 grains of H4350 for my 6.5 Caliber Creedmoor rifles.
Additionally, I have been using Starline brass with a small primer from Cascade Cartridge, CCI #450.
Muzzle velocity
This is where I've found the optimum load seating depth for both of my particular rifles.
In two rifles of the same brand and caliber, I have found a .020" jump in one rifle while the other is a. 040" jump using the aforementioned Hodgdon H-4350 powder.
With that being said I suggest that you use a fire formed case. After drilling the case head out with a letter "L" drill you can tap it for a 5 /16 X 36 TPI tap and use it in your Horandy or Sinclair brand bullet seating depth tool.
Using The Hornady LNL tool you can screw the modified case onto the tool and simply insert the bullet of your choice while following the instructions on the use of the tool.
( If unsure how to make a case consult the internet for instructions )
The Hornady modified case (caliber specific) is at best a generic case that will not give you the exact dimensions needed, close but not exact!. Therefore I recommend that you make one.
Please Note:
Once you find the shooting node using your chronograph and the Satter-Lee Test. you will be able to find the best bullet jump for your weapon.
Please note that due to throat erosion which happens to average about - .003" for every 100 rounds fired you will have to adjust the jump as required. This figure is not etched in stone and I suggest that you use a modified Ladder Test in conjunction with your chronograph in order to determine your optimum jump factor.

I think that this information will prove to be a good safe starting reference for you!
What was your conographed speed was you getting at 40 gr of h4350.
thanks in advance. Good information you posted especially about tap size.
 

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You've picked good powder and bullets to start. You'll likely land on your node between 41.5-42grains or approximately 2775-2825ish fps. My dads rifle really like 41.5 grains and mine liked 42. My rifle at 42 grains with a 26in barrel shot the 140 eld-m at 2843.
 

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This is a rehash of information that you may already be aware of.
I have been using the 6.5 Caliber Hornady ELD Match grade bullets with a G1 BC of .620 in the 140-grain weight in front of 40.0 grains of H4350 for my 6.5 Caliber Creedmoor rifles.
Additionally, I have been using Starline brass with a small primer from Cascade Cartridge, CCI #450.
Muzzle velocity
This is where I've found the optimum load seating depth for both of my particular rifles.
In two rifles of the same brand and caliber, I have found a .020" jump in one rifle while the other is a. 040" jump using the aforementioned Hodgdon H-4350 powder.
With that being said I suggest that you use a fire formed case. After drilling the case head out with a letter "L" drill you can tap it using a 5 /16 " X 36 TPI tap and use it in conjunction with either your Horandy or Sinclair Brand Bullet Seating Depth Tool.
Using The Hornady LN basic bullet overall length tool along with the caliber spefic bullet diameter insert you can screw the modified case onto the tool and simply insert the bullet of your choice while following the instructions on the use of the tool.
( If unsure how to make a case consult the internet for instructions )
The Hornady modified case (caliber specific) is at best a generic case that will not give you the exact dimensions needed, close but not exact!. Therefore I recommend that you make one.
Please Note:
Once you find the shooting node using your chronograph and the Satter-Lee Test. you will be able to find the best bullet jump for your weapon.
Please note that due to throat erosion which happens to average about - .003" for every 100 rounds fired you will have to adjust the jump as required. This figure is not etched in stone and I suggest that you use a modified Ladder Test in conjunction with your chronograph in order to determine your optimum jump factor.

I think that this information will prove to be a good safe starting reference for you!

What was your conographed speed was you getting at 40 gr of h4350.
thanks in advance. Good information you posted especially about tap size.
I Will check my stored readings on my Magneto Speed V3 today and PM them to you if that's all right with you!
I have a visit with my spouse today and after that, I will compile my findings for you.
Appointment time is 1:30 PM on Monday 1/4/2021 and visits usually last for one hour.
Sorry that I missed that information on my original post and I will rectify that straight away.
 
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I Will check my stored readings on my Magneto Speed V3 today and PM them to you if that's all right with you!
I have a visit with my spouse today and after that, I will compile my findings for you.
Appointment time is 1:30 PM on Monday 1/4/2021 and visits usually last for one hour.
Sorry that I missed that information on my original post and I will rectify that straight away.
Finally got your information
Hornady 140 grain ELD match in 6.5 Creedmoor
40.0 grains of Hodgdon H-4350 powder
V3 magneto speed Chronograph
5 shot string
Muzzle velocity Minimum 2625 FPS Maximum 2641 FPS
ES of 25 FPS
S-D of 10.4
Please establish your individual Muzzle Velocity as well as S-D and E-S numbers as each rifle will vary depending on brass, brass case length, bullet seating depth, neck tension, and bullet jump factor.
Additionally, your data may vary depending on your chronograph.
 

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ive developed loads for 7 6.5 creedmoors now. ALL of them have found a node anywhere from 41.0-42.5 grains of H4350 with 140 class bullets. hornady, nosler, lapua brass it doesnt matter they all end up close to the same....... some of the rifles had mag restrictions. so stuff em down to 2.800 - run a ladder and see what your rifle likes best.


ive used remington 7 1/2's for SRP lapua brass, federal 210 & cci 200 for LRP brass.

this cartridge is very tolerant to primers/bullet/powder/brass.
 
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