Hypocrisy, that's my point. It disappoints me that I actually have to explain it. Maybe the sarcasm was too heavy or that you've just chosen not to 'get it but here goes. Hunters go out into the wild to kill things. Anytime someone starts throwing ethics into that equation two words come to mind: dishonesty & hypocrisy. Now, I guess based upon my previous experience in this conversation I better go ahead and add that I do not get any pleasure or enjoy seeing animals suffer. But to think that as a hunter I am going to go out and instantly kill animals is just being dishonest with one's self. The animal will almost always suffer. When you pull the trigger and send a 150gr. projectile .30" in diameter traveling 2600 fps toward an animal, and here's the best part, for your own enjoyment; you have already stepped off the "ethics reservation". We send that projectile tearing through the animal's flesh, not because we are hungry, not because we need his fur to keep warm or build a shelter, and not because he is threatening us or our livestock. We do it for fun. And in most cases, the animal will suffer even if briefly. So for some, it is OK and ethical to make an animal suffer for their own fun for, say 5 seconds. But if he suffers for 6 seconds that's unethical? I've seen deer that have had well placed shots and it took minutes for them to die. In the case of the coyote hunter who started this discussion (congrats by the way on a nice long range shot), he finished the coyote with a 2nd shot. He did not say how much time elapsed between the 1st and 2nd shot. But I'll bet it was less time than a lot of deer suffer even when they were hit with a well placed shot. We learn to track our game, especially deer, because that is just part of it. Talk to bow hunters and find out how many deer just fall over dead when they shoot them. Are all bow hunters unethical? Some people do not take long range shots because the increased chances of the animal suffering more bothers them. That's fine, we all have different tolerances and ideas about that. But a guy who only hunts with a 460 Weatherby could make a strong case that anyone not hunting with the same caliber weapon that he is using is unethical. Don't be so quick to judge someone just because they didn't do it the way you would. What is the magic number for you as far as the longest range shot you will take? 100...200 yards? What about 201?