280ai vs 284 Winchester

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You must have a long action with a looooooong barrel. Nosler's max load for the 284 with a 175 clocks 2641, and Barnes max load for the 160 gets 2679 fps.

Both in 24" barrels.
Rem 700 Short Action. 25" BBL. OAL 2.980. 162 Amax. 53 grains RL17. 3000 fps. Nothing magic other than RL17 is pixie dust. Been hearing it burns throats out fast but 700 rounds on my barrel and looks average. Nosler doesn't show RL17. In my 284 Long Action, I run the 180s at 3000 fps also using RL17. OAL is 3.2+. Barrel on that rifle is 29".
 

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Rem 700 Short Action. 25" BBL. OAL 2.980. 162 Amax. 53 grains RL17. 3000 fps. Nothing magic other than RL17 is pixie dust. Been hearing it burns throats out fast but 700 rounds on my barrel and looks average. Nosler doesn't show RL17. In my 284 Long Action, I run the 180s at 3000 fps also using RL17. OAL is 3.2+. Barrel on that rifle is 29".
I can attest to rl-17 burning throats. I ran that as my main powder in my 6.5 creed. I switched to rl-16 at the end of its life but I only got about 1700 rounds out of it. It still shoots great. I just can't keep the velocity up anymore.
 

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I can attest to rl-17 burning throats. I ran that as my main powder in my 6.5 creed. I switched to rl-16 at the end of its life but I only got about 1700 rounds out of it. It still shoots great. I just can't keep the velocity up anymore.
I think I'll stick with the H4350 soon for the SA. I still get 2905-2925 with it. Plenty for what I need
 

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I think I'll stick with the H4350 soon for the SA. I still get 2905-2925 with it. Plenty for what I need
Rl-17 is almost magic. But unfortunately there's no free lunches in our game. Ive gone to h4350 in my 6mm creed as well. If you get the chance give rl-16 a go. I think you'll find it very easy to work with.
 

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Rl-17 is almost magic. But unfortunately there's no free lunches in our game. Ive gone to h4350 in my 6mm creed as well. If you get the chance give rl-16 a go. I think you'll find it very easy to work with.
How does it compare to H4350 performance wise?. I love H4831 because it's very accurate but prefer a bit more velocities.
 

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How does it compare to H4350 performance wise?. I love H4831 because it's very accurate but prefer a bit more velocities.
I'm not sure yet. I havent shot it enough yet to say. But from the research I've gathered rl-16 gives alittle more velocity than h4350. And its also a very stable powder. Only complaint I had with it is it builds carbon fast
 

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I'm not sure yet. I havent shot it enough yet to say. But from the research I've gathered rl-16 gives alittle more velocity than h4350. And its also a very stable powder. Only complaint I had with it is it builds carbon fast
. Perfect. That's what I wanted to hear. I'm pretty happy with 4350 performance wise. It's just under the RL17. I'll research it. See how tell stable it is. Thanks. John
 

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Ya true but it gives me personally something to do. I'm someone that has personal goal for most every round I shoot. 3000 fps is that number I strive for in most cases. Seems for what I use most of my rifles for, that number gives me good results at any distance I shoot the rifle. Mostly applies to the mid range cartridges i shoot. It's just a personal number that I strive for in my bullet weights I tend to use the most. They tend to all be heavy for caliber bullet weights. Under the .243, that number isn't as important to me as I use a bigger variety of bullet weights.
I always said, ‘give me flat, fast, and accurate...I can do the rest.’
 

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I like the 284 Norma case on the 6.5. I need to re-barrel that rifle since its burned up. But I'm still thinking about the 280 Sherman on a long action savage. I think it will have no problem with 168's to 180's. But I still hung up on the 65X284 Norma. It was so sweet to shoot and the recoil was nothing.
 

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I like the 284 Norma case on the 6.5. I need to re-barrel that rifle since its burned up. But I'm still thinking about the 280 Sherman on a long action savage. I think it will have no problem with 168's to 180's. But I still hung up on the 65X284 Norma. It was so sweet to shoot and the recoil was nothing.
I'll never NOT have one.
 

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