Question to the masses!!!! Wondering if anyone has any experience with the 168ELDM when compared to the 168 AMAX out of there 308 or other 30 calibers? Here is my first experience. Thursday I was out shooting my very cheap marlin 308 1-12 twist 26-inch barrel gun. Now everyone knows what I have for a 308. The Amax I got lucky with the powder charge and seating depth. They dialed in really quick. 2.800 inches OAL to tip (varies a little due to tip), with 44.5grns of IMR4895. One grain under Lees max load which produces 2830fps out of this gun (26-inch barrel). It shoots very consistent for plinking. Since I could not find any of the 168 amax at my local gun store I bought the 168ELDM. Same load same seating depth. Shooting at 100yards they are giving about .8 to .75-inch groups. I have not tried tuning the load yet, so I have some work to do there. Here was the interesting thing; I was shooting at 750 with my Amax load and I tried the ELDX load. I was consistently hitting about .25/.5 MOA below the Amax load. I dialed in another .25 and was hitting about the same just not as consistent due to the load tuning. I then got out my chronograph and checked the velocity. The 168ELDM were running right around 2800fps to 2810 with a few up to 2818fps and a few at 2790fps. Most were fallen in the 2790 to 2810. This was about a 15-shot sample. The Amax run at 2830 on average. Has anyone seen the ELDX run a little slower than the Amax and are they a little harder to tune? I haven’t measured the bearing surface or the other parts of the bullet to see if there is a difference somewhere. Also, the powder is from the same 1 pound. To be fair I just remembered; the 168 Amax have Hornady brass that I reloaded with federal large rifle match primers. The ELDM’s have another brass I think its lake city brass and the federal primers would not seat in the primer pocket. Pockets were to tight. I used Remington’s on them. So this might be the difference I was seeing.