I love comparing internet claims with IBS records. It's wild how many people can outshoot heavy gun records with their hunting rifles.
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I love comparing internet claims with IBS records. It's wild how many people can outshoot heavy gun records with their hunting rifles.
Huntnful
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Love the realistic first person information!!
Here is what a hunting rifle (typical hunting stock & #5 fluted barrel) in 6.5 Creedmoor has done on good days at 600 & 1000 yds. Would probably do better with a better operator. Anyway, on difficult days I have struggled to keep it on the paper and not get a DQ.
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Huntnful
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Standard hunting rifle with #5 fluted barrel also. Random day at the range. Some wind, but nothing crazy. I was shooting to true the drops up, but holding about .5 MOA of vertical, and .75 MOA in the horizontal category.
I had 10 MOA dialed in earlier this year at a match - much larger groups.
Mike Matteson
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That's true to a point. Accuratic play a major part in hitting your target. Knowing on how to place that shot is the other part. You need both to do the job right. Not just one or the other.
Very nice! And that has enough to do some damage at that range!
Statistics: 60% of the time, they work every time!
I agree that most guys (a very large majority) overestimate their abilities by a large margin, but if you listen to some of the (let's call them) naysayers we shouldn't be able to reliably hit anything past about 400 yards. However here we sit with guys doing it daily.
I used to tell Snipers and now emphasize it to new LR shooters in class, the hardest thing to teach someone is when not to pull the trigger. Test your limits on the range so you know your limits in the field.
I agree that most guys (a very large majority) overestimate their abilities by a large margin, but if you listen to some of the (let's call them) naysayers we shouldn't be able to reliably hit anything past about 400 yards. However here we sit with guys doing it daily.
I used to tell Snipers and now emphasize it to new LR shooters in class, the hardest thing to teach someone is when not to pull the trigger. Test your limits on the range so you know your limits in the field.
Exactly…(I thought we all were discussing the content of a particular podcast)
But apparently a larger target is a reason to attempt a longer shot…but as stated in the podcast 3 times more precision only results in a 3% increase in the number of hits…the main conclusion being that the shooter's assessment of the conditions is more important than more precision in the equipment or larger targets.
Shooting in wind requires magical powers beyond my skill level. I am a weakling because I do not shoot in wind and I admit it.
Though I have successfully shot out to a measured 1000yds behold there was no wind.
Though I have successfully shot out to a measured 1000yds behold there was no wind.
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What was the target size? Rifle caliber? How many shots versus how many hits?
For those that require the 20-30 shot strings before it's relevant, here ya go......This is the current Fclass national record at 1000yrds (shot in 2018)......that is 22 consecutive shots in a 5" circle, in the rain. Records are records because they are one offs and generally not repeatable.....I would call that a true 1/2moa rifle.
Huntnful
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Oh there is definitely 1/2 MOA rifles. Just not hunting rifles, in various field conditions lol. But 20lb guns with $2000 rests on a concrete slab. Absolutely.For those that require the 20-30 shot strings before it's relevant, here ya go......This is the current Fclass national record at 1000yrds (shot in 2018)......that is 22 consecutive shots in a 5" circle, in the rain. Records are records because they are one offs and generally not repeatable.....I would call that a true 1/2moa rifle.
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There's absolutely some true 1/2 MOA rifles out there. They're purpose built target rifles designed to be shot off extremely stable rests with no regard for anything other than precision. I sure wouldn't want to lug an F class setup around a mountain range chasing elk.For those that require the 20-30 shot strings before it's relevant, here ya go......This is the current Fclass national record at 1000yrds (shot in 2018)......that is 22 consecutive shots in a 5" circle, in the rain. Records are records because they are one offs and generally not repeatable.....I would call that a true 1/2moa rifle.
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