I currently have a 3006 Remington Mountain Rifle. I was looking at selling it but after some thought I am leaning toward using it as a project gun. I am currently looking at caliber options and have decided on either a 2506 or 2506 Ackley. Would just like some input on thoughts on both of these options. Also looking at a 26" barrel, would I be better jumping to a 28"? Thanks for the input!
2506 or 2506 Ackley build
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midnightmalloy
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After having a 25-06 I would suggest going to a 6.5x284 instead better bullets and I can tell you that you will be much happier. Not many options for the 25-06 or 25 caliber bullets.
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I have pushed 115 to 3200 FPS out of a standard 25-06. I don't see as much advantage for an Ackley is the caliber. 6.5-06AI there is more advantage being able to push a 140 at 3000+ IMO.
If you want different a 6XC or 6 creedmore would be a nice addition. I believe I'm am going have to have one since I have a 25-06 and 6.5 06 covered.
Back to your original,I killed lots of critters all shape and sizes with my 25-06, it's a great choice you can't go wrong
If you want different a 6XC or 6 creedmore would be a nice addition. I believe I'm am going have to have one since I have a 25-06 and 6.5 06 covered.
Back to your original,I killed lots of critters all shape and sizes with my 25-06, it's a great choice you can't go wrong
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midnightmalloy
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Maybe a 6xc or 6 creedmoor then. Not many bullet options in 25 cal
ATH
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If you are set on the 25-06, I typically recommend the AI version if the dies are not an issue for you. For one thing, say goodbye to trimming brass. I reload for friends shooting straight 243s, those stretch more than any other round I've loaded for. I shoot a 243AI, I have yet to need to trim after initial forming. I'm only on the fourth brass loading but I expect without the trimming I'll toast the barrel with the initial set of brass.
And as long as you don't have a tight neck, you can still shoot factory 25-06 ammo.
In my experience, there is no downside to fireforming loads. They can still be slightly superior in velocity to the parent and give up nothing in accuracy (in my experience).
And as long as you don't have a tight neck, you can still shoot factory 25-06 ammo.
In my experience, there is no downside to fireforming loads. They can still be slightly superior in velocity to the parent and give up nothing in accuracy (in my experience).
johnnyk
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I would go with the .25-05AI. I like that the sharp shoulder cuts down on case stretching, which means less brass prep time. The additional velocity is also impressive and just increases the hydrostatic shock.
I used a .25-06 Sendero for a number of years and never had a whitetail walk away. That can be said about a lot of cartridges, when and if, bullet placement is high on a hunters list.
I started out shooting the 100gn Ballistic Tips and TSX and moved on to the 115gn Ballistic Tips and Bergers VLD's. All were incredibly accurate, fast, flat and killed like a lightening bolt. A friend of mine swears by his using the 110gn AccuBond and I see that Hornady is coming out with a 110gn ELD-X.
A little more variety in heavier bullets would be nice but don't see it happening, and I understand why, just saying.
Good luck and happy hunting. JohnnyK.
I used a .25-06 Sendero for a number of years and never had a whitetail walk away. That can be said about a lot of cartridges, when and if, bullet placement is high on a hunters list.
I started out shooting the 100gn Ballistic Tips and TSX and moved on to the 115gn Ballistic Tips and Bergers VLD's. All were incredibly accurate, fast, flat and killed like a lightening bolt. A friend of mine swears by his using the 110gn AccuBond and I see that Hornady is coming out with a 110gn ELD-X.
A little more variety in heavier bullets would be nice but don't see it happening, and I understand why, just saying.
Good luck and happy hunting. JohnnyK.
Guy M
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Got my 25-06 Rem 700 CDL about 12 years ago. It's taken 9 mule deer, two antelope and a number of coyotes. Exactly what I had in mind for it when I bought it.
Best accuracy came with the 115 Berger VLD and it killed very well, but I've settled on the 115 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip as my favorite. It combines rapid expansion, massive damage, and sufficient penetration for exits, at least on broadside shots.
Mine is a general-purpose open-country deer rifle. I've got a 6x Leupold (36mm) with the LR dots in the reticle. It's worked out very well on shots from 20 yards to about 425 yards. Never tried any field shots beyond that. I'm still using the standard sporter-weight Remington 24" barrel.
Very gentle recoil, yet excellent results on game. A lot of cartridges could fit that description, but I spent my money on the 25-06 quite a while ago and it's always performed well.
Regards, Guy
Best accuracy came with the 115 Berger VLD and it killed very well, but I've settled on the 115 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip as my favorite. It combines rapid expansion, massive damage, and sufficient penetration for exits, at least on broadside shots.
Mine is a general-purpose open-country deer rifle. I've got a 6x Leupold (36mm) with the LR dots in the reticle. It's worked out very well on shots from 20 yards to about 425 yards. Never tried any field shots beyond that. I'm still using the standard sporter-weight Remington 24" barrel.
Very gentle recoil, yet excellent results on game. A lot of cartridges could fit that description, but I spent my money on the 25-06 quite a while ago and it's always performed well.
Regards, Guy
Guy M
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Cool! 
That should be fun and interesting!
Guy
That should be fun and interesting! Guy
Quite a bit late, but if your like me it takes some time to get things together.
I started off with a 270, went to 130's because that is what your supposed to use. Had that rifle for a long time. Got tired of "loaning" ammo to guys. A Remington 700 came up for cheap and I snagged it. A year later the 270 was gone. I tinkered with loads for the 25-06 quite a while. I ended up with a Hornady bullet and AA3100(now discontinued). I have enough loaded to last me a life time of hunting. I shoot one shot out of a fouled cold barrel once a year before season. It has been DRT. It is running 2900 and change, I opted for the accuracy rather than the speed.
As mentioned bullet selection is thin compared to others. That can be good or bad, however you want to look at it.
If I had to build one, I myself would stay with a standard. If your going to use it a bunch by all means go the AI.
I am curious as to what folks are getting in speed from a standard chamber compared to an AI, when equal amounts of powder are used.
I throw this in because my 30-06AI went backwards. A fair bit more powder to get to equal speed of a standard 06. It shines with 180 and heavier. Go to a 165 and it's a wash.
Jeff
I started off with a 270, went to 130's because that is what your supposed to use. Had that rifle for a long time. Got tired of "loaning" ammo to guys. A Remington 700 came up for cheap and I snagged it. A year later the 270 was gone. I tinkered with loads for the 25-06 quite a while. I ended up with a Hornady bullet and AA3100(now discontinued). I have enough loaded to last me a life time of hunting. I shoot one shot out of a fouled cold barrel once a year before season. It has been DRT. It is running 2900 and change, I opted for the accuracy rather than the speed.
As mentioned bullet selection is thin compared to others. That can be good or bad, however you want to look at it.
If I had to build one, I myself would stay with a standard. If your going to use it a bunch by all means go the AI.
I am curious as to what folks are getting in speed from a standard chamber compared to an AI, when equal amounts of powder are used.
I throw this in because my 30-06AI went backwards. A fair bit more powder to get to equal speed of a standard 06. It shines with 180 and heavier. Go to a 165 and it's a wash.
Jeff
jjmp
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i'd say stay regular 25/06,mine runs a 26 inch Shilen cm bbl turned dwn from a full bull bbl, 1-10 tw, can run 100 nbt's to 3500, not paying extra for special dies, n brass trimming don't bother me. 115 nbt's cronoed at 3025 ish, works for me. the rifle you own Rmtn 700, is very slender ,built lite, and a beauty to boot BUT an overly long bbl on that stock is gonna not look rite, use the action and get another stock, or not your choice bbl length and bbl conture comes into play also ,you want to kind of match everything together so it looks Beautiful, make sense ? many disagree on bbl length but it a great way to feed the need for speed, the bbl you have now is 22? i'd still go 26,not 28 even though I have 28 on bolt actions, now if your rifle was a ruger #1 i'd say 28 and let her rip ! if you re stock her a # 3 conture would be very nice, remember contures vary from bbl maker to bbl maker good luck & shooting..
86alaskan
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I'm going to vote straight 2506. Mine is a KP 1-9" twist on a tikka t3 action. At 24", it'll shoot 115 bergers and NBT's around 3050 with H4831sc all day long and not break a sweat. If you're going with a custom barrel, be sure to get something at 1-9" or even faster. Hammer Bullets on here makes a couple great monos that would do real well from a fast 25, but they require a faster than factory twist. Also, a fast 25 with good loads doesn't leave much if anything on the table inside 600yds. It's fast and accurate, that makes up for any BC a 6.5 might have.
