10mm handgun

I already had a G21SF so commissioned a "build your own" Lone Wolf slide, then bought their slide completion kit. A couple of the parts like the extractor and striker liner seemed a bit cheap, so I upgraded those. I added a 6" KKM barrel, but asked them to cut it to 5.5" which gives me an inch more than factory but isn't hanging out too far for my taste. The slide had RMR cutouts so added a Trijicon RMR and mid height Night Fision backup sights. Total cost for everything was about $1250 or so, but it's a nice package and I can just switch uppers and mags. Of course it would have been way less if I had skipped the RMR, but it was the first I'd bought and wanted to try it on the new slide.

I put color coded Ghost, Inc. MOAB baseplates on the mags so I know which caliber mag is in the lower. I also bought gold and black rear slide plates that say "G20" and "G21" for an "At a glance" verification of the upper just in case I get confused. 😉. I'm a big fan of non-captive recoil springs and guide rods from Wolff Gunsprjngs, so went with a 20 lb spring IIRC, but bought a selection from factory weight up to 22 lb just in case. I like the Hornady 180 grain XTP. I had the slide cerakoted Sniper Grey, and just had 1911 style slide serrations as I wanted to retain as much weight as possible, but some of the options other than the stock Glock serrations were pretty cool so maybe I missed a bet there. While I was at it I had the lower stippled and trigger guard relieved, which made a huge difference in feel and shootability, especially with a heavy recoil, then went to a Ghost 3.5 connector, and did a .25 cent trigger job. I have a G29SF with extended baseplates, but it's a handful, and the larger frame pistol is obviously a better choice for hunting / woods carry.

The one thing I don't have yet is a good holster for it. I was thinking some kind of chest rig to stay off my waist as I have enough stuff there, but will have to do some research. Any thoughts on good carry options are welcome. I have Hogg IWB Kydex holsters for a G19 and G30S for CCW, but the G20 setup is really too large for anything like that.
 
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These folks have nice stuff.Watch the video on how to custom fit the new holster to your gun.
Priced right.
 
My go to bear gun. G20.5 that I stippled, put an Aimpoint ACRO P2 on, X300U, and some other parts.

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The triggers suck, the ergonomics are glock, but I have no doubt it'll go bang whenever I need it to.
 
Any advice on a 10mm handgun.Looking at a Glock budget $1000.
Around these parts I would say buy 2, a full size and a compact, used. Maybe new springs wouldn't hurt, or a tunable rod and spring kit. You might need to go with a G21 and conversion barrel and mag, but then you'll also have more options (;
 
Being prepared, and in reality having the opportunity are different sides of the coin!

I'd much rather have a couple of well placed, high horsepower, heavy, wide metplat bullets over a spray and pray scenario any day! Jus Say'n!

But, once again…..to each his/her/they/them/it (🤪) own! memtb
I don't live in Bear country and I don't want to be chewed on by one. Listen to this podcast of a bear attack survivor that emptied his Glock 20 on a bear. If he would have only had six rounds he wouldn't have survived.

In the end all handguns suck for Bear defense. I'd rather have a lot more opportunities to make one or all shots count than to empty a big revolver and then be helpless.

The podcast starts slow but gets very intense when the action starts. It's worth a listen.

 
I don't like in Bear country and I don't want to be chewed on by one. Listen to this podcast of a bear attack survivor that emptied his Glock 20 on a bear. If he would have only had six rounds he wouldn't have survived.

In the end all handguns suck for Bear defense. I'd rather have a lot more opportunities to make one or all shots count than to empty a big revolver and then be helpless.

The podcast starts slow but gets very intense when the action starts. It's worth a listen.



Agreed with the handguns suck, but it's better than a rock or a sharp stick.

Bear spray sucks too. Most of the time a bear is jumped by you it's because of wild, swirling winds and it maybe didn't smell you. Wild, swirling winds don't lend themselves to bear spray. ****, a decent breeze can be enough to render bear spray ineffective or even worse you catch it in your face instead. Bear spray makes sense when a bear is maybe walking up to you on a fresh kill on a calm day.

If I have my hunting rifle handy, great, better option than the pistol for sure...but most of us have our rifle strapped into our pack these days and they are only in a ready position when we are taking game.

Pistol, bear spray, and knife should always be readily accessible and you should be able to deploy them in a rapid manner. They should also never be strapped onto your back pack that's resting on a tree 20 feet from you while you're field dressing an animal. Belt and bino harness for those 3 items. I prefer bino harness for knife and bear spray. You will be on your belly, ideally, if a bear is on top of you to shield your vitals. At least there you can still access them and have a drop of a chance.
 
I "limped" in to the DS 1911 market with a RIA a few months back. Been pretty impressed actually.

TAC ULTRA HC THREADED 10MM

I've got a decent supply of hand guns to formulate a solid opinion but this was the first for me. Now I'm looking at 2-3 more.
It does just about everything I want it to. Wish there were more options for grips, but I just took it off completely and put grip tape on instead.
Added a 507k x2 and the new Surefire 300 Turbo



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These are very under rated pistols, but I would still grab my Glock before it for going into the woods.
 
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Do you mean this bullet/projectile?

This is not meant as a personal attack….merely an observation!

While they certainly will penetrate, with their shape they will provide minimal tissue disruption, minimal bleeding ……much like stepping on a nail.

IMO, the wound will rapidly close, with minimal hemorrhaging and tissue destruction. Unless brain or upper spinal column nerve is hit directly….it will do very little in stopping or slowing an attack! Again JMO.

This is where a heavy, wide metplat bullet excels. It penetrates quite well, makes a relatively large wound (tissue damage) channel. memtb
You should look at gel tests with them. You might be surprised.
 
Agreed with the handguns suck, but it's better than a rock or a sharp stick.

Bear spray sucks too. Most of the time a bear is jumped by you it's because of wild, swirling winds and it maybe didn't smell you. Wild, swirling winds don't lend themselves to bear spray. ****, a decent breeze can be enough to render bear spray ineffective or even worse you catch it in your face instead. Bear spray makes sense when a bear is maybe walking up to you on a fresh kill on a calm day.

If I have my hunting rifle handy, great, better option than the pistol for sure...but most of us have our rifle strapped into our pack these days and they are only in a ready position when we are taking game.

Pistol, bear spray, and knife should always be readily accessible and you should be able to deploy them in a rapid manner. They should also never be strapped onto your back pack that's resting on a tree 20 feet from you while you're field dressing an animal. Belt and bino harness for those 3 items. I prefer bino harness for knife and bear spray. You will be on your belly, ideally, if a bear is on top of you to shield your vitals. At least there you can still access them and have a drop of a chance.
If you are going where there is a high degree of concern, leave the bear spray on the shelf, have a high cap 10 on your side in a duty holster with extra mags. If you pack your rifle, carry a .308 SA carbine in the ready and keep it near by when you are not moving! I know it's much more to carry, but if your life is at risk it's worthwhile. If you are not physically capable, bring a friend that is, or stay home. Go hunt in a safer place.
 
If you are going where there is a high degree of concern, leave the bear spray on the shelf, have a high cap 10 on your side in a duty holster with extra mags. If you pack your rifle, carry a .308 SA carbine in the ready and keep it near by when you are not moving! I know it's much more to carry, but if your life is at risk it's worthwhile. If you are not physically capable, bring a friend that is, or stay home. Go hunt in a safer place.

20 rounds of 10mm in a level 2 holster for me brother!
 
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Do you mean this bullet/projectile?

This is not meant as a personal attack….merely an observation!

While they certainly will penetrate, with their shape they will provide minimal tissue disruption, minimal bleeding ……much like stepping on a nail.

IMO, the wound will rapidly close, with minimal hemorrhaging and tissue destruction. Unless brain or upper spinal column nerve is hit directly….it will do very little in stopping or slowing an attack! Again JMO.

This is where a heavy, wide metplat bullet excels. It penetrates quite well, makes a relatively large wound (tissue damage) channel. memtb
I have shot some of these and they penetrate very well.Have not shot any animal with them but gel tests show considerable damage.
I did shoot a huge boar very much over weight with a 10 mm 180 gr hard cast bullet.It went in chest and exited the rear ham and when they skinned the boar (for dog food) that hard cast .402 size bullet ruined everything between entry and exit.Not hearsay but actual visual proof the .402 22 B H hard cast bullet in 10 mm does wonders on large animals.That visual proof was an eye opener for me,so while I love my 44 mag I prefer 10 mm for my bear gun.Just my opinion.
 
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