Brown bear Rifle

If you are comfortable with your 300 WM i would take it. I dont own a 300 WM so I would probably take my 8mm Rem mag as I am very comfortable with it. If you wanted to take me with you I will let you use my 416 Rigby though. :)
 
RH300UM said:
What's my life worth?To you?
25k?!
If a bear gets shot. Goes into the alders. I'm not sending you in. I'm going in. Your staying out. 2 reasons. 1st your safety is paramount to me and my outfitter.
2nd is I do not have to worry about you or the noise created. Meaning if you are not there and I hear a noise I know it's the bear. No second guessing. And I am going to put the finishing shots in it anyways. So I have a difficult time understanding shooting sooner after the initial shot/shots by the hunter vs. me shooting later in the above described scenario ?
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Pretty much any guide that gets up before me, saddles the horses, and cooks my breakfast is alright with me. I have never hunted with a guide. Too old to hunt with one now. I have always thought of a guide as someone that gets me to the area holding the animal I am paying to shoot and then helps me get the animal out. I have never wanted a guide to find my animal, and especially put one of his bullets into my animal. No, other than big ticked-off boar hogs, I have never hunted "dangerous" animals. My desire to find and kill my own animal is one of the things that kept me from hiring a guide back when I could have hunted by myself. But I only wanted a limited amount of help.

Nothing against guides, just prefer to do some things for myself. Someone on this thread said he would not want to be a guide for a man like me. I agree. I would not want him as a guide either. I have talked with several guides over the years and my safety was always their first concern. I have never talked to a brown bear guide that wanted to do things my way. While I understand their reasoning, I had to pass. My beliefs and my unlucky dreams of hunting a brown/grizzly bear have kept that rug elusive to me.

One last thing. I have heard guides talking after the hunt, and they mostly talked about the elk, deer, black bear, they found and how stupid their clients acted when faced with the possibility of shooting at a real trophy animal. I don't think my guide would talk like that while I was still in camp or at the local restaurant, but I do know that lots of guides take credit for the animals they find for their clients, even though they never fire a shot. That bothers me. Then again, guides do have some really fine hunting stories.
 
We hunted in Africa with the owner of the property & guide. We could not have had a better hunt and vacation for 10 days on 10,000 acres all to ourselves. Hunt with "Spot & Stock". We can't even begin to explain how GREAT it was. In the top part of South Africa and never even saw a Jet fly over. See at least hundreds to thousands of animals on the property at any time. I also used guides in Newfoundland for Black bear/moose/caribou hunts and it was the biggest waste of money and time. I won't get into the negative. I have a good friend that has been on well over a dozen guided hunts in the lower 48 and Alaska. He said 25% were good, 25% ok and 50% he wanted to through the guides either out of the boat or heli. I know that there are some really good guides, but make sure that you get several verified references before you book. Another short story. I took my father in law and his friend on a quail/dove hunt in S Georgia. It took us forever to find the lodge in the middle of nowhere. We got there - no one was around. Finally we drove around in the back roads and found another property owner . He told us the the person we were looking for went out west on another hunt. We got screwed. The other property owner let us hunt on his property for free, but it was a wasted three days. Be careful!
 
Treeslug said:
Pretty much any guide that gets up before me, saddles the horses, and cooks my breakfast is alright with me. I have never hunted with a guide. Too old to hunt with one now. I have always thought of a guide as someone that gets me to the area holding the animal I am paying to shoot and then helps me get the animal out. I have never wanted a guide to find my animal, and especially put one of his bullets into my animal. No, other than big ticked-off boar hogs, I have never hunted "dangerous" animals. My desire to find and kill my own animal is one of the things that kept me from hiring a guide back when I could have hunted by myself. But I only wanted a limited amount of help.

Nothing against guides, just prefer to do some things for myself. Someone on this thread said he would not want to be a guide for a man like me. I agree. I would not want him as a guide either. I have talked with several guides over the years and my safety was always their first concern. I have never talked to a brown bear guide that wanted to do things my way. While I understand their reasoning, I had to pass. My beliefs and my unlucky dreams of hunting a brown/grizzly bear have kept that rug elusive to me.

One last thing. I have heard guides talking after the hunt, and they mostly talked about the elk, deer, black bear, they found and how stupid their clients acted when faced with the possibility of shooting at a real trophy animal. I don't think my guide would talk like that while I was still in camp or at the local restaurant, but I do know that lots of guides take credit for the animals they find for their clients, even though they never fire a shot. That bothers me. Then again, guides do have some really fine hunting stories.
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I absolutely agree with you. I personally will never go on a guided hunt other than the hunts I've guided myself. I am perfectly comfortable and confident in my ownhunting abilities and yes some hair raising and awsome stories but i never believed in trash talking my bosses clients because they had not the hunting experience i did
 
VernAK said:
Your 300 is just fine providing it is ultra reliable and durable. It should fit you like a fine shotgun and don't hang a lot of crap
on it that will hang up in the alders.....ammo pouches etc. If it's got a floor plate, glue it shut or duct tape it. Your scope cover should be easy and water tight. Years back, we used pieces of inner tube stretched over the scope.....harder to find today. Now I go to a physical therapist friend and get a piece of .....I think it's called Theraband or some such....your bullet choice is good.

Good luck on your hunt.....Where will it take place?
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Great advise, that's a great take...!
 
AkBirder300 said:
If you do decide to go for a new rifle I'll throw a plug out there for the Kimber Talkeetna. It's as purpose built a rifle for Alaska bear hunting as you can find. Fantastic stock, stainless everything and some very fine ghost ring sights from NECG ( just in case you fall on the wet grass and crack an objective, we call it snot grass because that's how slick it is!).
I really enjoy it and the .375 is just not that bad recoil wise, I liken it more to a shotgun than a sharp smack like a 300.
That being said, I ended up taking my brownie on the kenai peninsula with an 06 pushing a 168 woodleigh. Only needed one and he rolled down the hill.
then the work begins!!
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Nice mount
 
If you wanna kill one, .308 and smaller calibers. Wait for them to die.

If you wanna dump a big one in its tracks, .338 RUM on up to .458WM improve the odds. And .375 RUM on up really improve the odds of a lights out and down result.

Saw a mid-sized bear hit with a 400gr Trophy Bonded Bear Claw from a .458 WM, and it wiped the wind out of the bear where it stood.
 

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