Coyotes won’t come in on a call

[DSheetz]

I have noticed that a lot of people don't realize just how loud they are playing their E-Callers as they have the caller speakers pointed away from themselves and setting out in front of them a few yards . The speakers are directional and from behind them you really can't tell how loud they are . If you want to tell just how loud they are set them out then walk down range of them with them playing . Take into consideration that the animals you are trying to call can hear better and in more frequencies then most people can . I like to play sounds that are in season at the time I'm calling as an example pups, fawns ect. are born in the spring . baby rabbits and adult jack rabbits ect. have young all year long . There are times that you will get coyote to respond out of curiosity to sounds that they wouldn't normally hear at that time of the year and that is why I listen to the animals out there in the field to tell what sounds they are making at what times of the year

 

[coyotemaster]

Mistakes I see people make... and some I made initially.
-Park out of sight... way out of sight.
-Be stealthy walking in. Contrary to belief, coyotes aren't laying in a hole in the ground (den). They are laying on a knoll, a brush pile, a fencerow or a woodlot edge, etc. They likely see you coming. If they see you come into an area, you will not get them called in.
-Even if you play the wind, they could be circling and winding you. Always set up with a barrier to force them where the wind is not in their favor. I like to use brushy waterways that jut out into crop fields. --Set up at the tip of the (jut) and they will likely travel up the waterway or parallel to it.
-The colder, more miserable the day, the easier they are to get in.
-If you keep hunting the same area, you have trained them. Hang it up and find a new locale.
-I try not to call in the same area more than once in a month. Mix it up. They can be smart.

Well.said. Listen up newbies this guy knows how stuff!
When/ where you park the truck is really huge, Wily knows a.truck door closing at.The farm house is benign but along the road is danger. As well when a.farm dog starts barking at 1/2 mile.away Wiley pays attention!

 

[Reemty J]

here in Mondamtana its 50 degrees during the day, and once the coyotes lay down for the day, they are reluctant to get up...Was out calling on Saturday and 2 different times I had coyotes sit up and look at the call but stretch and lay back down, they must have full bellies and no use running in to eat something. So plan B, give them 20 minutes and sneak in and shoot them...1st one I blew it, tried shooting him curled up and he had a small mound of dirt he was laying agaisnt in the tall stubble, I killed that dirt mound .........next set I got a little smarter, approached within a 100 yards, squeaked him to his feet, Ka-Pow....dead male coyote. Later in the day I called a long narrow draw, 1.5 miles long about 1/2 way down I could see three coyotes all lying down, it was 1/2 before dark, finally one got interested to a female howl and started in, took her almost 25 minutes to get there, 100 yards shot............the other two weren't too interested. we need some COLD weather so they burn more calories and are hungry

 

[DSheetz]

Did you happen to take notice of what the moon is doing at this time Reemty ? As well as what faze it's in . 2 hours before and after moon raise and moon set they will be the most active just like the prey animals it seems to me . I think it's on the increase now and it should be coming up in the mornings as last week it was setting in the late morning on Tuesday . Get you one of the fishing calendars and and keep track of what days as well as the time of day you have success and see how it compares with the best fishing days and times you may be supersized at what you see .You can look at the cows ,deer and antelope and see what they are doing and get an idea as to what the coyote will call like . It's all related and all very interesting how much it's all tied together to me .

 

[coyotemaster]

here in Mondamtana its 50 degrees during the day, and once the coyotes lay down for the day, they are reluctant to get up...Was out calling on Saturday and 2 different times I had coyotes sit up and look at the call but stretch and lay back down, they must have full bellies and no use running in to eat something. So plan B, give them 20 minutes and sneak in and shoot them...1st one I blew it, tried shooting him curled up and he had a small mound of dirt he was laying agaisnt in the tall stubble, I killed that dirt mound .........next set I got a little smarter, approached within a 100 yards, squeaked him to his feet, Ka-Pow....dead male coyote. Later in the day I called a long narrow draw, 1.5 miles long about 1/2 way down I could see three coyotes all lying down, it was 1/2 before dark, finally one got interested to a female howl and started in, took her almost 25 minutes to get there, 100 yards shot............the other two weren't too interested. we need some COLD weather so they burn more calories and are hungry

That's really close to get to a sleeper/ 100 yrs and I get nervous he'll raise his head a skedadle. If I can get within 300 on a sleeper I'm a happy camper Shoot off my bag after lazering and dialing up!

 

[DSheetz]

Practice on deer that are feeding , cows that are bedded ect. to see how close you can get to them . Step with your toe going down first then the heel , use all the low spots to go towards them you can . You don't have to see them 100% of the time while you are approaching them . When you are looking at them see them with your peripheral vision . Even people know when you stair at them too much . I've walked up on a sleeping coyote to with in 10 feet and shot her with my 22 revolver just to see if I still could and a bob cat that is watching down into a draw to with in 30 feet . If you are interested in learning more on how to stalk better the Army , Marine Corps ,and Seals have put out some good booklets on the subject or you could enlist and go through their training and O J T program working 12-16 hours a day the way they do it when deployed .

 

[coyotemaster]

Practice on deer that are feeding , cows that are bedded ect. to see how close you can get to them . Step with your toe going down first then the heel , use all the low spots to go towards them you can . You don't have to see them 100% of the time while you are approaching them . When you are looking at them see them with your peripheral vision . Even people know when you stair at them too much . I've walked up on a sleeping coyote to with in 10 feet and shot her with my 22 revolver just to see if I still could and a bob cat that is watching down into a draw to with in 30 feet . If you are interested in learning more on how to stalk better the Army , Marine Corps ,and Seals have put out some good booklets on the subject or you could enlist and go through their training and O J T program working 12-16 hours a day the way they do it when deployed .

You're a wealth of knowledge, thanks so much!!

 

[DSheetz]

Thank You I've been around a day or two I like to try to help people as much as I can . I don't want to be a know it all or a smart A@#just helpful if I can . At one time I ran with some real good people at stalking .

 

[Orange Dust]

Try and set up where the coyote will have to come out in the open to get down wind of the call. Set up crosswind of the caller. Biggest problem with coyotes is their nose. Much better than a deer, and we all know a deer can smell pretty good. In the fall I have had better luck with deer and turkey sounds than rabbit of any kind. Our dogs must be hungry!!

 

[DSheetz]

Coyote see , hear and smell a lot more then any human ever could . Any movement and they can see it if it's out of place and not slow . Any thing shinny and they will see it if it's in their line of sight , but now there are a lot of manmade shinny things in their world . They can hear you push the safety off on your gun from an unbelievable distance any metallic sound is pretty much out of place in their world . I think if they could talk to you they could tell you every ingredient in your lure composition . What an amazing animal .

 

[Reemty J]

51 degrees here at daylight today....stop and think about a couple things, one they are wearing the heaviest warmest fur they have all year, right now.....two, I have watched coyotes mouse on bare ground this time of year and in 30 minutes they may catch 8 to 10 mice........so they are too warm to run far, food is real easy to catch, no deep snow hindering their mousing....I had better interest in coyote vocalizations first and then soft squeaking..........doesn't matter to me if they come to call or sneak, just as long as I can find them and get to do some shooting. Of course Dave is a wealth of knowledge, he was part of the Lewis & Clark expedition.... ...he has had lots of time to figure all this stuff out. Dave I take offense to your smartass comment as I have tried very hard my whole life to be one ..........at times..............

 

[DSheetz]

Reemty , we all have our quirks that's what makes us interesting people . The study of your quarry is part of the fun of the hunt . I love to watch them doing their hunting isn't it interesting that they can smell and hear a mouse in the grass as far as they can . Reemty do you make some bird and rodent sounds with your calls and lips ?

 

[Reemty J]

I do all three, lip squeak, hand squeak and caller squeak..........I like the hand squeak when I am on the rifle, lip squeak if they are a few hundred yards away....
Did you know Sacajawea, Dave?

 

[DSheetz]

Not very well she kind of kept to herself Reemty . I was just kind of along for the walk and the scenery any way . I did make it to her funeral but I have forgotten where it was for sure . Some where on a hill by a long gone fort .