You are correct it isn't only non resident hunters and it isn't all hunters it's just that too many people don't display manners or any common sense and make it not enjoyable for others to be out around them . I personally just don't feel safe out there when it is hunting season now , Sockeye66 , We all have our own ideas as to how safe we feel around others and our reasons as to why we feel that way . I ask a hunter to please not point his rifle at me his reply was it's not loaded . My reply was how do I or you know for sure that it isn't and there have been so many people killed by not loaded guns . I had never met this person or his son before . I don't think he was teaching his son to do the right things when handling firearms . I don't know how you are out there as I don't know you so then after seeing a few that I don't want to be around in the field I don't want to trust and be shot by someone that looks like they know what they are doing but then turns around and does something foolish . And since I do live in the U.S. as do you we can have and voice our opinions from our experiences . I do not like the fact that you were hit by a drunk driver and I know that not all drivers are driving impaired but I think you will be more observant of the other drivers around you because of what happened to you . I hope you have a speedy recovery and that all ended up turning out well for you and yours .
Disappointed in non-resident hunters
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VernAK
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I'm an old phardt that's been doing fly-in remote hunts since 1969. Originally my goal was to go where the animals are. Now my goal is to go where people aren't.
I like to go far away nearest trail or road in Oregon I got a place I go out 20 miles on foot one to see animals two to get away from the idiots but normally you get away from idiots you find animals and normally if you get away from the road you also get away from many idiots
del2les
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I know what you mean. I had that happen a couple of years ago, but my truck was parked over the ridge and on the narrow trail. A clear indicator someone was hunting the area ahead. As I laid prone overlooking a short sage brush area below and waiting for the 700yd 6x6 bull to move out from all the cows, a couple of 4 wheelers with Texas hunters came to a stop about 50-60 yds from me. Even though I was covered in orange and obvious to see the moment they topped the ridge 300 yds away, they drove down to me and began to ask, "Have you seen anything?" As I watched the entire herd fleet footing into a draw and out of view.
Hugnot
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I only hunt rodents on private land with the owner's permission & blessing. I make sure to give them something nice now & then.
There has always been the 10%. 10 percent of any given group will be some kind of jack-wagon. 10 percent will be above and beyond shirt off their back anything to help you great people. Then the 80% that follow the rules and just mind their business. The Jack-wagon 10% are the ones that are sooo easy to notice and remember. It has always been this way, and I'm afraid it always will be. Enjoy and appreciate the other 90%.
I'm from Missouri, and for years I hunted Nebraska, and S. Dakota birds, and many times I picked up garbage, plastic water bottles, empty food bags, and threw them into a garbage bag I carried in my truck.
I hear you, many hunters are disrespectful and its troublesome to see this reckless treatment of our land, and your land especially. Just know that there are many of us that care as much as you do.
I hear you, many hunters are disrespectful and its troublesome to see this reckless treatment of our land, and your land especially. Just know that there are many of us that care as much as you do.
Never hunted WY, but it sounds like you have a problem with the WGFD not doing their job, maybe. I'm sure they are spread thin like the rest of the states.
Man that sucks. I have actually had the oppoistte experience in WY elk hunting. Residents launching bullets all over the place and cutting under me at every corner especially opener. But then again general tag on public land. Eitquette seems to be lost not just in hunting its absolutely sad cause I have met a ton of nice folks on the Mountains from every state here and there but the last couple years were all bad
Do the same!! its amazing what people NR or R do in the forest or our public lands its embarassing. Last year my kid and I picked up over 40 beer cans in a 2 hour stretch couldn't believe it.
Muddyboots
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I save the TIP line for whatever State I am hunting and will use it if I see anything that requires a call. The CO's are spread thin and if we help "tag" the bad apples maybe the rest of the barrel won't sour either. Over the years I have been threatened (that didn't go over so well), truck vandalized, poor etiquette and so on but I believe we have to persevere to insure the hunting heritage that we all want is continued. I carry pen paper etc to record whatever info I need to save for authorities. Cell phones are good but sometimes pen and paper is better. I've contacted CO's in the area I plan on hunting to see if I should be aware of anything unusual. Heck, I have been told of drug drop areas, meth areas and so on to be extra careful. We live in a NOW self gratification society and common sense and etiquette takes a back seat so someone can post up on Instagram, Facebook, the Look at me Kill photo and they don't care how they get it at your expense. I once had a truck block my freaking tent cause that was the only place he thought he could park! All I can say is keep moving forward and do what is right for hunting, fishing, camping or whatever the outdoor activity may be. I refuse to give up.
Andrew Massi
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I love when these threads pop up. As a non resident who hunts Wyoming I'd say your experience isnt unusual nor is it different than any other western state. The region I hunt on a draw takes me 3 years to draw so cost about $700 by the time I get the tag straight into your game department(your welcome). It's a general tag for residents, and definitely gets treated as such. The MO I observed by locals was to drive out on ridges and glass a bit then drive down and onto another ridge, never saw these guys and gals venture very far from the truck... About a decade ago many of the roads where we hunt were closed to vehicle traffic, residents didnt take kindly and ripped the signs out of the roads, drove around them or drove around the mountain and ripped those signs out, the game warden literally couldn't put them up fast enough they'd get taken down and thrown out into the sage. This wasnt non resident guys this was residents who didnt like that they couldn't drive to their favorite overwatch anymore and threw a fit. I guess what I'm trying to say is jackassery knows no borders. Hunting, with competition, a 20 acre parcel sounds like torture unto itself
brant89
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As an out of state hunter I had issues in Wyoming with other hunters sneaking up on us from behind and intentionally trying to scare us while we were trying to locate a cow elk we had heard just below us. I would NEVER do that to anyone. I don't think the issue is the state where the people live but the STATE of the people in general. Most people are awful.
Yes Andrew the Clinton admin. closed roads all over the U.S. . Here in Wyoming some of them had been in use for nearly a hundred years and some of them were the only access that ranchers had into their pastures with out driving for miles out of their way . Some were closed due to people not staying on the designated roads . Some of the roads also went to peoples cabins that they had on privet property . Some camping sites were closed that people from all over the U.S. came and used some were kept clean by the users and some not so much . Those signs were placed there by U.S. Department of Forestry . I have seen many Wyoming Game and Fish Dept. personal use these same roads a lot of times . Yes there are road hunters from all over the U.S. even here some are old or incapacitated and some just lazy the same as any other place there are even people that go to hunting camp just to party they don't really hunt they just get away for a party . We also have the real hunters that do get off the roads and walk or go horse back hunting . I have also seen people cut trees down to block access to public land .
