Constructive criticism ...

I guess I deal with constructive criticism in differing ways based on how much thought I put into what's being criticized. The company I work for has been updating their fleet of equipment in the last year or so and we've been finding all of the weak links and having to come up with updates and ways to strengthen it to get it hold up to the environment that it's subjected to. The commissioning of this equipment from the manufacturer is terrible and the documentation on it isn't much better so we are learning as we go. I'm a mechanic and also do a ton of heavy fab work on this stuff as well as designing the updates to better last and produce in the environment that we work in. I'm not gonna lie and say that I don't get bent when I overhear some helper that's worked for the company for a few months and knows little to nothing about fab work badmouthing something I built to try and make their life easier. I do appreciate well thought feedback though even if it is constructive criticism so that someday I can streamline it all and get it right. I also enjoy a good glass of whiskey too!
 
Riflehunter1776 said:
constructive criticism means that the person receiving it is expected to change something about themselves.

So it depends on who is giving the CC.

If it's some proven moron, then excuse me for blowing off the suggestion. It the criticism comes from a respected person that I know well enough on a website, then sure, that requires consideration.

Most of the time, I would personally PM somebody that I respected, not blow them up in public and call it CC.......
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Most of you know I went back to school for more torture. :cool:

For the last 3-months receiving feedbacks (mostly constructive) from my instructors is a weekly occurrence. It has been a very humbling journey thus far. I am thankful for their advice except they are too slow to respond to my corrections per their feedbacks. School policy is that they have up 7 days to respond. Not very good policy IMHO for accelerated classes and this learner is having a hard time adjusting but doing well overall. :D
 
FEENIX said:
Apparently, it takes a special trait/attribute (learned/adapted or born with it) to be able to deal with it. How do you handle constructive criticism like a champ? It seems people are easily offended these days. Constructive criticism is often the only way we learn about our weaknesses — without it we can't improve. When we're defensive, instead of accepting and gracious, we run the risk of missing out on this important insight. I have a handful of people here that does this extremely well and one of the reasons I look up to them. Despite their years of real-world knowledge and experience, they are open-minded. As a life-long learner, I do not mind it, just curious how others cope with it.

We "all" know the site rules and the Golden Rule (as well as Dirty Harry's opinion on opinion :rolleyes:), chime away ... TGIF! :cool:

Cheers!

Ed
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My take on criticism has always been that if a person can dish it out, he should be able to also take it. If he cant, then he already knows everything and you are wasting your time trying to criticize/inform him.

There is another philosophy that I practice (Most of the time)that states that If you are not being criticized, you aren't doing anything.

There is two basic types of criticism, Constructive and adversarial. Guess which one works best.

J E CUSTOM
 
J E Custom said:
My take on criticism has always been that if a person can dish it out, he should be able to also take it. If he cant, then he already knows everything and you are wasting your time trying to criticize/inform him.

There is another philosophy that I practice (Most of the time)that states that If you are not being criticized, you aren't doing anything.

There is two basic types of criticism, Constructive and adversarial. Guess which one works best.

J E CUSTOM
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Well said, Sir!

There are more types of criticism than I originally thought >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varieties_of_criticism#Constructive_criticism

or

https://www.marketing91.com/18-different-types-of-criticism/
 
I take constructive criticism as lightly or as seriously as the source it comes from. In other words, I first consider who is criticizing, then compare their criticism to their credentials. I often find their criticism to be nothing more than an opinion, though sometimes their opinion lines up with facts passed down from those who have fruit in their tree in that area of knowledge.

All the above said, I once hated any criticism constructive or not. I was like most younger people that knew everything or could figure out what I didn't know on my own. Fortunately someone I looked up to let me know that the majority of our learning comes through failure, and therefore my life would be much less painful if I were willing to learn from others' failures without having to experience many of them myself. Things have been much better since.
 
Constructive criticism is a wonderful and much needed thing, especially in todays culture. The older generations seem to accept and appreciate it more than the younger ones who've been taught that acceptance and positive affirmation is ALWAYS required. They often react (as opposed to responding) violently because they are not nor have they been taught to seek the truth or demonstrate self control. If its not true, we should not be hurt by it and if we defend the truth rather than ourselves, we can learn and grow much more. Constructive criticism is also multifaceted. On social media, some will say things they would never say face to face, good or bad. And some misconstrue things because there are no facial expressions or body language to read. Relationships also have a great deal to do with it. Do we respect the giver? None of us likes to be wrong, but to acknowledge we all are at some point levels the ground. Sorry for the lengthy post.
 
Not sure if a gun forum is the place to discuss criticism, of any kind. Being we don't know each other, even a helpful suggestion can be construed as criticism, albeit constructive.
Offering a suggestion is not criticism, and offering just enough suggestions to a person where when he finally gets, he now thinks he figured it out on his own is a great way to teach people.
Perception is a big thing here, did you criticize, or try help?
Unless you are ready to go the distance and help someone to the desired conclusion or outcome, at any facet in life, there is no room for criticism. Only when a goal is achieved, should one offer constructive criticism as to, how, why, etc.. did you do it this way. And only then are you retracing the steps or process that the original choice was made from. Always focus on the situation and not the individual.
Calling someone a turd in the punchbowl because they deserve it is not criticism, more of an attack, as the common sense ship had sailed long ago.
 
Rich Coyle said:
milo-2,

You sound like a teacher. Is that being negative or positive?
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Far from a teacher, I am an uneducated fool.
It could be either, based on your or my view of teachers, but then, I do not know your view.
Now I'll be the student, did I pass?

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If you had not followed the comment with a question, I would go with negative, for their would be no reason to make the statement, other than you not liking most teachers.
Now if you had said, you sound like a college professor I had, who I admired greatly, which by the way, you should be thinking, then positive, lol
 
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