OK, My turn on the 6.5 Creedmoor

[MudRunner2005]

"There is no such thing as "inherent accuracy", therefore there is no such magic cartridge."

Actually, there is....see above

Ummm, NO there isn't. Accuracy has to do with the rifle and barrel, and NOT the cartridge design. Any cartridge can be accurate.

 

[rflshtr]

Ummm, NO there isn't. Accuracy has to do with the rifle and barrel, and NOT the cartridge design. Any cartridge can be accurate.

It is true that most any rifle and clambering can be made accurate with varying degrees of work and cost. This thread is about how easy it is to get the 6.5 Creedmoor to shoot well with inexpensive factory rifles and ammo.

 

[Creedmoor shooter]

Dont waste your breath on this one guys. Mud despises this round. Just kindly smile, nod, and move on before this turns into another horror of a thread to read.

 

[MudRunner2005]

Dont waste your breath on this one guys. Mud despises this round. Just kindly smile, nod, and move on before this turns into another horror of a thread to read.

It's not the round at all... It's what it has become, and the fact that people believe it's magical.

 

[RoyB]

I'm not sure where I read it, Might have been "Rifle Accuracy Facts" or some other technical shooting book. There was a chapter on "Inherent Accurate Cartridges"...It spoke about efficiency, Velocity vs Bullet SD vs Shoulder shape, etc. It reached no conclusion, but was an interesting read. It actually talked about 6PPC and the 6BR

 

[cajun]

Well by design certain cartidges are more inherently accurate than others. Not that most all can't be made to shoot. But take the 6mm br and 6mm ppc and dasher. Specifically a shorter fatter case with a steeper shoulder angle. The 308 for example is more inherently accurate than the 30/06 because of these features.

 

[MudRunner2005]

It's a misnomer, there is no such thing as "inherent accuracy". There are better designed cartridges that produce more velocity, are more efficient, and have a more stable design that is less picky, but there is no such thing as inherent accuracy. The cartridge has nothing to do with accuracy...The rifle does.

 

[tbrice23]

I really wish President Trump would look into hiring Hornady's marketing team for a re-election campaign... those guys are brilliant.

 

[RoyB]

As they say...
"Proof Is In The Pudding"......Four inexpensive rifles, two sporter weight, two varmint weight....Totally stock (Before Remington was placed in after market stock)....All shooting identical ammo with absolute Zero load development...using "blem" bullets...and all shoot under 3/4" for 5 rounds at 100 yds.....I've been shooting, reloading and gunsmithing for 40 years....Never seen anything like this!
Only thing that comes close is a custom 6BR build. I've built a dozen or more over the years, with various barrels and various actions/stocks....Every single one performed favorably with 32g of VIT-135 under any quality 60-65g bullet with Lapua brass and a BR primer.....Very boring!

 

[jasonco]

Dont waste your breath on this one guys. Mud despises this round. Just kindly smile, nod, and move on before this turns into another horror of a thread to read.

 

[woodtick007]

Roy
How can I purchase a couple pounds of various blem bullets? I do not live in Mo so going to the production facility is out of the question for me.

As they say...
"Proof Is In The Pudding"......Four inexpensive rifles, two sporter weight, two varmint weight....Totally stock (Before Remington was placed in after market stock)....All shooting identical ammo with absolute Zero load development...using "blem" bullets...and all shoot under 3/4" for 5 rounds at 100 yds.....I've been shooting, reloading and gunsmithing for 40 years....Never seen anything like this!
Only thing that comes close is a custom 6BR build. I've built a dozen or more over the years, with various barrels and various actions/stocks....Every single one performed favorably with 32g of VIT-135 under any quality 60-65g bullet with Lapua brass and a BR primer.....Very boring!

 

[teesquare]

Mudrunner2005....So...where does the nut behind the trigger fall into that equation?
I have seen some awesome rifle builds, that could not hit Aunt Sally's *** ( and Sally was a BIG girl) - because the fella holding the firearm was just that. Not a "shooter"....I have a couple of 6.5CMs, and I like them - but will not hunt elk with them. I prefer my trusted .300WM.
I think the 6.5CM is a fine round, within the rules of physics . Maybe inherently given to being an easier round to be accurate with than some. Is that all the round? No. Is that ALL the rifle...? nooo. Is it ALL the shooter....no...but I think they all three pay a role.
Magic..? Only when I hit the bullseye

 

[jasonco]

The Creedmoor(s) are all about the chamber (SAAMI spec)and how it works with the cartridge. It's like having a custom dun up rifle that you get off the rack at the local sporting goods store down the street. You can't say that for most other cartridge/rifle .

You can call it marketing BS if you want's to but, you can't have that kind of marketing success without your product working as it does, across multiple platforms, without fail. When the American Gunner bulk, makes .5-.75 100yds groups in an PSA10 1st GEN AR, SAV 10 BA Stealth, SAV LRP, even a SAV 26" take-off I put on a 10FP action and they shoot, I done drank all that dam kool-aid!

Please sir, can I have some more?!

 

[MudRunner2005]

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