I finally got time to go test some more factory loads in my browning a-bolt .300wsm. Some of you have heard me say I'm in the process of saving up for reloading equipment and then a custom rifle so in the meantime I'm trying to squeeze the very best out of my factory gear. Anyway back to the point, I tested HSM 178 AMAX's and HSM 185 VLD's. I zeroed each at 100yds and then shot them at 800yds to compare them. I used my kestrel and bullet flight program to dope conditions. I called the wind and squeezed off some good shots. The AMAX's shot a 7 3/4" group at 800yds and the VLD's shot 8 1/4". Both wind calls were absolutely perfect and the conditions were tougher for the VLD's. The groups were more horizontal than vertical which I can blame mostly on subtle wind changes. There was a 4" vertical spread on the AMAX's and only 2" of vertical on the VLD's. On paper the VLD's will outperform the Amax's by a substantial amount. Also thanks to all the amazing feedback and tips I've learned from you guys I've worked on my technique and am using a rear bag which worked awesome!!! Also this is only the second time using the Kestrel! It worked perfectly! I know MOA at 800yds is nothing for many of you but for me with factory stuff I was very impressed. I can't wait to see what I can do with custom stuff. Thankyou for all the help guys, it's starting to show up more and more each time I shoot.