Suggestions for longrange outfit

george

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I am planning to bug a Rem Sendero in 300 Win, I will install a timney trigger. I read somewhere that a factory barrel can be improved by polishing with a compound before you shoot it. Would freezing w/ crypto-----help? What would be a good scope, bases & rings? I will tryshootng 5-700 yds. Any suggestions on handloads. If I like it, would this action be OK to work with a Hart barrel? Thanks for any help
 

Roadrunner

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Hold on there George, way too many questions to quickly focus in on with anything but a very superficial answer. First of all the most important question we have for you is what are you gonna use the rifle for?? Target? Hunting? If hunting then where, what and when. What kinda of financial range are you talking about here? We need a little more background info on your intentions, needs and financial resources before we can give you a decent answer.
 

george

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The rifle will be used for hunting whitetail at long range and informal target shooting. If I like it I would go further with rifle, barrel, etc. Don't mind spending 2000 on rifle & scope. I have a 7mm rem mag that Kenny Jarret did, it is an excellent rifle, light weight. I would like to try a 300 win, but don't want to spend 2500 on just the rifle.
 

Matt27

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George
I have a Rem Sendero in 300 win mag 26" barrel and factory trigger. A jewell triggers is on the way via ups for it. I just finished working up some loads for it with 220 gr. Sierra Match Kings. I to plan to use this for long range hunting and target work. I am getting 2800fps with these loads and have shot consistantly in the .2's at a hundred. The range i go to only goes to 600 yards and plan to shoot that for from now on till opening of deer season.I finally got some norma brass and due to variances in the Norma to the Remington brass i can't get the same amount of powder in the Norma that i did in the Remington brass but still is a stomper.
Matt
 
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daveosok

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George

First the Rem action is a great choice for any type of gun combo, provided the proper gunsmithing will be accomplished on it.

Your action should be trued, i.e. face the action face (where it contacts the barrel), face the lug beraing surface (where the bolt lugs rest when in the locked position).
Some gunsmiths will true the bolt too, face the front and rear of the lugs, and then lapp the mating surfaces of the action and bolt.
The barrel, I think you are referring to fire lapping, while a good method for factory barrels, it is not recommned for custom barrels.
Fire lapping if you are nto careful will increase your throat area and in most cases accuracy will decrease.
Hart, Lilja, Shilen, Pan-Nor, Douglas, Keriger, and a few other barrel maufactures are high quality barrels.
All have one comps at benchrest shoots and will perform when treated with correct cleaning methods excellently.
Next step would be a strong stock, some like syn some like wood, either one has been proven to be just as accurate as the other as long as proper bedding techniques have been applied.
Bedding; the part of the action that contacts the stock should be bedded with some sort of high shock resitant and chemical resitance compound and formed to the actions bottom side when placed in the stock. No preloaded conditions should exsist when doing this and compentent gunsmiths or stock workers can accomplish this without worry.
The barrel should be freefloated so that a folded busniess card can slide easily between the stock and barrel.
Some people have used piller bedding this is where two pillers of some sort of metal have been seated within the stock where the mounting screws for the action hold the action.
These pillers contact the action and give it a firm position bedding with some sort of compound is also recommended as well as pillers.
The bedding should not contact the sides or bottom of the recoil lug as this may interfere with accuracy.
Action screws should be torqued to a specific amount, some say between 50 to 65 in pounds, becareful when doing this as Rem action plates are aluminum and may crack.
The barrel once all work has been done to it should have a nice crown with a 45 degree chamfer between the bore and the crown surface and should be concentric and without knicks or scratches.
What ever contour you chose it should be to your likeing when you receive this rifle.
Triggers;
Shilen, Timney, Jewell, Canjar, and a few others are out their, Jewell imho is the best with canjar coming in second because of their dual stage option allowing you to use it as a hunting rifle and as a benchrest rifle changeing the trigger pull to less when punching paper.
Scope bases should be of high quality, Leupold, Badger Ordnance, IOR Valdada. They should sit without any force in full contact with the action. Once the scope rings and bases have been placed on you shoudl lapp the scope rings so that they fit the scope to be used as to not put any preloaded force on teh scope possibly damaging it or affecting accuracy.
The stock
McMillian if you can get one within a resoanble time frame, Elk Ridge, H&S precision and many mroe are out their.
Just depends on your liking once again.
Handloads in many cases will net you the best possible accuracy from your new rifle.
Barrel break in should be followed as per manufactures recommendations.

Good luck with your new project.
Dave
 

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