Powder Info/ VihtaVuori Powder N165

[RockyRandy]

Anyone have any knowledge on using ( VihtaVuori Powder N165) Can't seem to find any H4350 or Stable 6.5. I will be using it in a 6.5 Creed.

 

[RockyRandy]

Don't bother replying to this post! Wrong powder for what I wanted.

 

[venatic]

Try N550 or N150 both work well in 6.5 Creedmoor

 

[RockyRandy]

Try N550 or N150 both work well in 6.5 Creedmoor

Thanks. Now I just have to find some along with H4350. Win. Sable 6.5. But thanks for the heads up.

 

[venatic]

Also look for 4000MR it's an overlooked one that gives top speeds with 140 and heavier bullets and is actually not very temperature sensitive at all.
There is load data in the new Speer Manual for it as well.
I have been using it for a couple years now.

 

[RockyRandy]

Also look for 4000MR it's an overlooked one that gives top speeds with 140 and heavier bullets and is actually not very temperature sensitive at all.
There is load data in the new Speer Manual for it as well.
I have been using it for a couple years now.

Thank you for the heads up. One has to always be looking for other types just to stay ahead of the game.

 

[RockyRandy]

Thank you for the heads up. One has to always be looking for other types just to stay ahead of the game.

I'm guessing you mean IMR 4000

 

[GLTaylor]

Alliant Power Pro 4000 MR. A bit faster than 4350.

 

[venatic]

Alliant Power Pro 4000 MR. A bit faster than 4350.

That's the powder but If you mean velocity faster then yes...
If it's burn rate it's closer to H4831 and slower than 4350

 

[GLTaylor]

I meant on the burn rate chart. 4000MR is near N540. Some bit faster burn rate than 4350

 

[venatic]

I meant on the burn rate chart. 4000MR is near N540. Some bit faster burn rate than 4350

You must be looking at Hodgdon chart I am guessing...what can I say except it's way off on that powder. Look at Westerns or others but the easy way is look at max charges for 4350 versus 4000MR.
4000MR will be higher because it's slower burning. Also that's another reason to never load off burn rate charts because they vary.
Here is for 6.5 Creedmoor from Speer Manual

 

[GLTaylor]

Well durn. I usually look at 2 charts for that reason!

 

[Mike Matteson]

When working up a load. I generally look at several charts to get comparisons of what powder being used and what bullets that are being used. Not all manuals show the same thing, and yes there bullets are somewhat different.

 

[Hugnot]

I have used 4000MR for years and it is roughly comparable to RL19 burn rate. Outstanding results in .243W with 87's-105's, .300W with 178's and now a 3 shot clover leaf with 6mm-06 & 87 V-Max® - 52 gr., just under 3,500 fps. Worth a try in the 6.5CM. Relatively dense should give close to 100% fill with 130's & 140's.