i'm a little late here but had to chime in. i agree some penelty had to be done with the football program. because it was to protect it. i'm not sure that's all there is to this. everyone is down on Joe and i don't think he should get the blame. every person on that board that fired him knew about this. i went out with a girl that lives in state college, her ex is in administration there. she said it's been common knowledge in the town for 10 years. also, the police knew about this more than 5 years ago and were investigating. the district attorney, that was doing the investigation just disappeared and his car was found along a river up there. again, he hasn't been seen since, and the case wasn't continued. the police basically dropped it. it was just hushed up. some in the PSU circle think this goes right up to the governor. Joe reported this to the board. they all knew about it. the police knew about it. most think it's bigger than the football program and when it came down Joe was going to be the scapegoat. i don't think Joe should get any where near the blame he's getting. the whole thing is sad, it's hard to imagine crap like this still goes on in this country.